AC 300 Blackout, ejection problem, kind of

OK, specs first…
Upper: PSA AR-15 Upper 300 Blackout 16" Pistol-Lgth 1:8 13.5" MLOK Without BCG&CH
Lower: S&W M&P Sport II lower, no mods, Mapul Stock.

Carbine length barrel, pistol length gas system.

Problem: Not every time but say 5 or 6 times with 90 rounds, the shell casing is ejected but is caught by the BCG on the return stroke wedging the almost ejected case in the ejection port and messing up the subsequent feed. Also noticed it seemed to kick harder (ok, for an AR platform).

Situation: first time at the rangerange, ammo used was AAC300 125 gr (so supersonic), Mags new Magpul 300 BLK specific mags, new upper (cleaned before first use), BCG from the S&W M&P Sport II lower (worked no problem with 5.56 rounds), BCG and lower cleaned to. Original buffer tube and spring from the Ruger.

Help…so I want reliability should I have to use for home defense (and no not the only firearm for that but just saying).

From what I have read possibly a heavier buffer, H2, should take care of the hard recoil issue, but the H2 makes me think the ejection issue might get worse? In the end, the harder recoil can be accepted but the ejection issue I would really like to fix…help.

What buffer is in it currently? I have also seen LOTS of issues with the magpul 300blk mags.

The current buffer is the original that came with the S&W MP II, pretty sure just standard, not heavy…born a 5.56.
It could be the mags but I would have thought the issue would be more frequent but not sure.
I also get some blow back each time, or maybe I started noticing it after the first malfunction…

Is this BCG doing double-duty in two rifles?

Not saying this is the issue, but how many rounds on the BCG? If a couple thousand, you should consider at least a new bolt, if this is to be the BCG’s “permanent home”. Ideally a new BCG to go with the new barrel.

Things that wear-together should stay together.

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New bcg with new barrel = good to go
New bcg in used barrel = good to go
Used bcg in used barrel = no go

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Before you go changing parts
Check for gas leakage around the gas block, the gas key in the BCG.
Check the alignment of the gas tube in the upper receiver. The gas key rubbing on the gas tube will induce the failures you describe.
Check the alignment of the gas block on the barrel.
Check for kinks or obstructions on the gas tube.
Failures to eject/feed are indicative of insufficient gas to operate the action.

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Also @greg.murphy3 welcome to the forums.

Agreed on this. seems like they’re more problematic than using standard 556 mags all day long.

Thanks.

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OK, update, think I will put it all here, sorry Marcel_01.

So, no the BCG is not doing dbl duty, this lower has been it’s home for several years, just wanted to change the 3 AR in the family to a 300 (the other two being my first build, abit with a complete upper from PSA, the second being my wife’s - which I am forbidden from touching). While not eliminating the possibility a new BCG is needed, I have too much $ in this one-off build at this point, I will have to wait.

This was a new 300 upper from PSA.
SO I broken the gun down, for a good cleaning. I checked the BCG for possible ring leakage, along the verifying the gas system, it passed. Then broke down the BCG for thorough cleaning, reassembled, tested the rings again, still good (test the rings, stand the assembled BCG on end, if the rings are not holding then it will compress under it’s own weight, least according to Brownells). Dbl-checked the ejector as well as looked for any corrosion, it was good.

Checked the alignment of the gas tube end, checked for wear (not sure I would see anything after just 100 rounds, but checked anyway. Inserted the BCG & CH, ran it back and forth checking that it seeded correctly, all looked good.

I did not break-down the upper to examine the gas block, a time and tools thing, and not comfortable with the upper disassembly and reassembly, yet. So kind of trusting PSA that the GB is aligned properly.

As far as the Magpul 300 mags, I think they are good for me, did not seem to have any issues when I cycled through them on the range. Forgot to mention I also used a 10-rd 5.56 msg while I was zeroing the gun, no problems there either. The one failure to feed was due to stuck casing in the ejection port when the bolt came forward. I have several 5.56 (Magpul) mags I can test out next range trip.

I still don’t know if I am under-gassed or over-gassed as I did not note where the casings were landing on my range trip.

I tried to check PSA web site to read the specs on my upper gas block, because I do not remember it being adjustable but the web link is no longer valid (which I also find unusual since it was ordered in January this year, oh well).

The 300 is now reassembled in same condition as when I experienced the ejection issue with exception of an added H2 buffer. And I made a mistake in my original post, the buffer spring and buffer were from a B5 Stock I had on hand (new one) because I wanted the QD mount which the Magpul didn’t have ability for (old Magpul, sling slots not QD).

Next time on range will note:

  • where casings are landing
  • will try a mix of Msgpul 300 and Magpul 5.56 mags
  • will pay attention to being “gassed” (blowback I guess)
  • still usonmg supersonic ammo, this time S&B 124gr 300 (ran out of AAC 125gr)
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OK, finally got to the range…
The H2 buffer seems to have done the trick…
Blowback seems greatly reduced…
cases are ejecting between the 3 and 5’o’clock positions…
no ejection issues, @90 rounds of S&B 124gr ammo…

:smile:

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…And the saga continues…
I should have left it alone but…kind of like “here hold my beer” moment…
I replaced the trigger with a PSA EPT trigger I borrowed from the 5.56 I built (installed a 2-stage, love it), thought I would put the EPT I had used (like maybe 200 rounds) in the 300 to get rid of the old AR-15 standard trigger…

Install accomplished, dry tested the trigger after install, seemed to work fine…then on the range…

On the range I turned by 300 ACC Blackout into a single fire rifle, sigh…
Do the EPT trigger would not reset, would fire a round just fine but the cycle did not reset the trigger, case ejected just fine (right about 3’oclock position)…

Dropped the mag, cleared it, pulled the pin, examined the trigger, gave it the same test as in the install (manual cock, release, safety, no pull, kept from hitting the forward stuff, etc, standard), trigger seemed just fine but it will not reset in use.

I’m stumped. Any help appreciated.

Hammer spring installed right side up?

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Guilty lol :laughing:
@Rufus

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Thought so, I’ll check it again…

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Spot on.
Took it to the range and had a blast (lol, every time I pulled the trigger)…

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looks like you go tsome great grouping there man. well done. glad it was a blast.. thats how its sposed to be done!

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