Here is a model 1914 Artillery Luger dated 1916. I haven’t stripped it completely down but all the serial numbers I can see match except the grips and magazine but they are correct. The finish is pretty good and original and there isn’t an import mark on it that I can find. Maybe one day I will run up on an original stock for it.
ive never been fan of the artillery versions as i felt the barrels were too long. that one is however a very beautiful piece, and you should be proud to have that in the collection. I know i would. thank you for sharing it.
What’s that crazy sight elevation Gradated to? Something like 1000 meters? ![]()
Don’t be silly. 1000 meters would be ridiculous. Its only graduated out to a more reasonable 800 meters.![]()
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If the stock isn’t numbered to the Luger then you are only slightly adding value to the Luger. Since it won’t be a matching stock save your money and just get a reproduction holster and stock pretty cheap. The real value to a Artillery Luger collector is in the entire package. Original matching stock, LP08 hard shell holster, shoulder strap, origional factory magazine in the Luger and two origional magazines in the original magazine pouch is the entire package. The biggest overall boost in value will be an original matching DWM 1917 “Red Nine” Artillery Luger package. These are considered one of the “Holy Grails” for a Artillery Luger or Luger collectors. Any WWI or WWII Luger has a lot of history and value to them.
what makes them so valuable being the Red Nine?
I find the WW2 German small arms particularly interesting I guess because my father spent a year as a guest of Stalag 7A near Moosburg Germany.
whoah… thank you for your fathers service sir… that could not have been easy… I hope and assume he made it home ok? I pray so.
i can see why you’d be interested in the small arms for that reason… .Im just a history buff about wwii so the small arms of it are very interesting to me cause i can buy them, and like own living history… that my grandfathers both participated in…
Thank you. Yes he came home in 1945 and I was born in 1946 and he passed away in 1986. His time there wasn’t something he would talk about much. I was stationed in Germany for 8 months in 1969 and visited Moosburg but all signs of the POW camp were gone but I did send him a postcard from there.
When the 1917 C96 Broomhandle Mausers in 9mm were finally being issued to German Artillery units the upper level German command worried about ammo being mixed up since the Mauser C96 and the Artillery Luger LP08 were both being made in the 30 luger and the 9mm Luger. I don’t know why German command was only worried about the C96 and not the LP08. The official written order to the Artillery Units only listed the C96 not the LP08 Artillery Luger. Some 1917 DWM Artillery Luger in 9mm will have the rare “Red 9” grips. There was only so many Artillery Lugers that were mistakenly branded. The grips were branded at unit level since it was made in 9mm and not 30 Luger. The red 9 was only supposed to be done to the 1917 C96 Broomhandle Mausers newly made in 9mm to keep from confusing ammo on the front line between 30 Luger and 9mm. Understandably some units mistook the order to also include the 9mm LP08 Artillery Lugers also. The mandate stated that a 9 to be branded into the grips and then painted in red. Some units painted the 9 red and others left them just as they were after branding. The last pic is of a C96 Broomhandle Mauser from 1917 with the “Red 9” grips.
The overwhelming majority of Red 9 branded grips were on 1917 Broomhandle Mausers and 1917 Artillery Lugers. You may find the Red 9 grips on other Lugers but most of them are faked and not original. The Broomhandle Mauser and the Artillery Lugers were both used by Artillery crews to protect their Artillery emplacement if attacked. This is the reason why you find Red 9 grips on 1917 LP08 Artillery Lugers and not the regular P08 Lugers.
oh interesting story there greg… thanks for explaining it… i wouldnt have had a clue… they certianly look beautiful by that example.
So many beautiful pieces out there!!!
This is something else, very well kept, incredible. ![]()
I find anything from WWI all the way to the cold war era very interesting. So much of todays weapon technology is based off of the items and experiences learned by the militaries around the world. Necessity is the mother of invention. This is certainly true from every war in the world’s history. Many of those items and technologies also found their way into the civilian population. You and I have very similar interests and weapons from history. Our history is being systematically erased and being re-written by parties that don’t care about real history only their version of history to further their narrative and their power.
I sadly agree and I also believe the revisionist will win in the end and some day all these firearms we enjoy and pamper will be rounded up and melted down. But not in my lifetime. Let me put in a plug for a past time I enjoy. Hillsdale College has a bunch of free online courses on conservative subjects. Each course usually has about ten 30 minute video classes. They are really quite enjoyable and educational. Hillsdale College Online Courses
@string1946 I really appreciate your tip on Hillsdale. I didn’t know about them at all but I will certainly check them out. I don’t sleep well at night. I am generally on my phone doing research or reading something until I finally get sleepy. Hillsdale will probably give me something else that I can do while I can’t sleep. ![]()
Well come to find out I did know about Hillsdale. I already had an account set up with them but I forgot all about it and Hillsdale. I must have joined before looking something up or someone referred me to them to listen to something. Thanks for reminding me. I have them saved in my bookmarks now. ![]()
Your welcome. I can also recommend the PragerU app. I’m retired so I have a lot of free time on my hands.![]()












