Final Rule Frames/Receivers & Pistol Braces

It’s so stupid. Back up sights gives you points. What a load of crap.

The whole thing is bullshit.

They want the serial numbers and the tax stamp money. And with what’s come out in the last day or so, we now know that they have the serial numbers in their searchable, digitized, database. Almost a billion of them in their illegal registry…

There’s 3 reasons I didn’t build an SBR.

I didn’t want to wait. State laws make carrying a loaded rifle on or in a motorized vehicle virtually impossible, including off highway vehicles, and I didn’t want to ask permission to take my rifle across state lines. I shouldn’t have to ask permission, ever.

I’m dont think I know about this point system, what’s that about?

AR Pistol Worksheet

I score 23 points overall :roll_eyes:

No back up sights still gives you points

Presence of Rifle-type Back-up / Flip-up Sights / Or no sights :expressionless:

There are going to be massive lawsuits over this.

The ATF rely on that

They knowingly put out unconstitutional legislation, willing to fight it out in court. They know they may very well lose, but that’ll be in 25 years.

It’s their modus operandi

If you read the fine print, even if you score less than 4 and burn your brace, the AFT still reserves the “right” to determine your pistol an SBR

I didn’t get that far - BUT you can colour me Unsurprised. It really IS a Criminal Agency.

SB and KAK are the two big brace makers. But I don’t even see how KAK can get out of this. I hope the gun industry goes together to fight this, one company may not have enough $$ to do it by themselves.

Lol what a joke. So many overlapping questions with seperate scoring. So many things that have nothing to do with it. What a setup for failure, those pieces of human :poop:
So confusing

Is this what they are trying to get approved later this year?

Trying to?

They’re gonna ram it through with full support from the DoJ and FJB

It’s not confusing

If you score over 4 points, it’s an SBR

If you score under 4 points, it’s a pistol

Unless the AFT determines after the fact that even though it scored under 4 points, it’s still an SBR

Straight to jail, perpetrator.

So will this be a mandatory thing for ppl to fill out and send back?

They haven’t announced an implementation or enforcement plan yet

Make no mistake, this is exactly why they’ve launched the online process

They’ve been planning this for at least a few years…

I hope a lawsuit is ready to go day 1…the benefit of knowing its coming gives our side time to prepare, and I hope they do.

Yea hopefully or I’m screwed. Cant even have sbr’s lol never understood why a state like IL with as many gun owners and the amount they buy here wouldnt want to take advantage of their unconstitutional idea to pay extra money to have them

Here’s the issue

I have zero concerns that the GOA, FPC and others won’t immediately file suit against a corrupt enforcement agency that chooses to bypass Congress and write their own legislation

However, barring an injunction it will be enforceable while it plays out in the courts

So win or lose down the road in the courts for the AFT, they will expect to get the majority of the “illegal SBRs” registered and pocket their $200 per in the mean time. And if they don’t like the registration numbers that they’re seeing, they will track down and make examples out of people who haven’t complied. I will bet that the AFT will seek out some high profile people to charge in order to make waves and get their illegal registration scheme back on track.

They have the new online registration system in place that the suppressor industry was so excited for… Whether it crashes and burns like every website the government launches doesn’t matter. The AFT doesn’t care, time is on their side. This will take years to sort out, and when they start prosecuting honest people, people facing 10 years and a quarter million dollar fine for their formerly legal firearm, it will get a lot of attention.

The AFT has asked for a one time 1.5B dollar budget increase, right now. This will double their budget to 3B dollars…

Why do they need all that money? Why do they need it now? It should be obvious to anyone reading this

The government is broken. Seriously broken. All three branches

It’s not enforceable. There are millions of brace owners. The economy would collapse if they arrested brace owners. How many truck drivers, construction workers, police, etc. own braces?

I’m not worried at all. If anything, this might highlight the over reaching power of the ATF. My hope is that this dustup draws more people from the sidelines and into protecting the 2A.