This would be a great deal if there was more time

PSA AR15 COMPLETE MOE EPT SBA3 LOWER - 5165448150 for $219.99

This would be a great deal … if there were only time for PSA to ship it, for UPS/FedEx to deliver it, and for an FFL to transfer it before the new Final Rules get published in the Federal Register next week. At $219.99 it’s an absolute steal and it should probably sell out soon.

But the problem is that the new Final Rule says that if you don’t have it transferred to you by the time that the Final Rule is published in the Federal Register, then you’re not eligible for the amnesty stamp. And of course, this kind of shipment is going to spend 4 days in limbo at one of the UPS inspection centers (or until after the Final Rule is published in the Federal Register). That’s just how things work lately.

If anybody ordered one, please let us know if you were able to get it transferred to you before the Final Rules got published in the register. I just didn’t see any way to get it done in time. It really would have been better for everyone if this sale had come along sooner.

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No one could predict when the ATF would pull shenanigans.

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You’re right…

You posted this 33 mins ago and its out of stock now. :rofl:

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What new rule are you speaking of?

I forgot to tap reply. :point_up:t2:

Yep, sold out already. I had it in my shopping cart overnight but never pulled the trigger. I’ve never really wanted a braced pistol instead of a registered SBR – this only appealed to me because the pricing appropriately reflected that the stock had essentially been depreciated to zero value because of the looming deadline that would convert the stock into something unsalable.

Unpredictable shenanigans? I don’t concur. The writing has been on the wall for a long time. ATF issued formal notice of their intent on 6-10-2021. That’s 18 months ago. Every FFL has received formal notice from ATF regarding their plans. We’ve all known about this for so long that we’ve all had plenty of opportunity to take action. I hate to be the guy that has to say it, but at this point things have progressed so far along that trying to put the blame on ATF for a business’ marketing mistakes is nothing more than disingenuous.

Everyone has known of the ATF’s intention to classify pistol-braced AR15 receivers as SBR, thereby rendering braces unusable without a tax stamp. It’s been going on for a year and a half. It caused an uproar. Everyone knew about it. Then there was an announcement that they were going to suspend the rule and issue a revised Final Rule in December 2022. Everyone had known about this for a long time. Everyone had plenty of time to get their ducks lined up.

What a business decides to do with that information is up to it’s management, and those decisions can’t be blamed on anyone else. Most FFL were smart enough to liquidate inventory and get out of the pistol brace business so they wouldn’t be stuck with unsalable inventory. Those that remained in the business of selling pistol braces took a calculated risk in an effort to maximize profits for as long as they could, knowing that in the end some units may have to be forfeit, destroyed or the attached firearm registered . When anyone takes a calculated business risk very few people are going to believe it when they try to blame their decision on someone else. Everyone is responsible for the decisions they make.

This sale was bad planning, pure and simple. It came to late for me, as I wasn’t willing to take the risk of a failing to complete a time sensitive transaction. This sale amounted to a last minute effort to transfer inventory. I hope it worked out for everyone, but I can’t accept blame shifting.

If anyone should benefit from this sale, I’d like to know, just so that I can congratulate them for getting it in under the wire.

Affected Parties and their Options Under the Stabilizing Brace Final Rule

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I was referring to the New Final Rule that ATF recently published.

One of the provisions is that to qualify for the SBR tax stamp amnesty, the braced pistol has to be transferred to you prior to the date of the New Final Rule’s publication in the Federal Register, which is likely to occur next week.

If and only if you already own a braced pistol on that date, you would qualify for an amnesty registration / free tax stamp when registering an SBR under the NFA. Most FFL that continued to hold braced pistols in inventory are now scrambling to liquidate them before they get stuck with items that they have to register under the NFA. Essentially, any inventory at an FFL becomes a headache once the New Final Rule is published in the Federal Register.

It was supposed to be published in December and then wasnt.

Any ideas on PSA’s plans for if you purchased a braced pistol but it’s currently processing and hasn’t shipped. Will they ship and transfer what they can before Thursday or cancel the orders ?

What makes Thursday special?

Thanks for the detailed explanation in both your posts. I haven’t bought a brace before so that’ll be good to know ahead of time if I ever do.

Gang,

 I'm hoping Law Suits from Multiple entities and or the Court System is going to slap the BATFE right in the mouth for this egregious overeach .

The BATFE no more creates LAW than the FBI does. Nobody from Congress or the Executive Branch has signed this…thus No Law as of yet.

I might be in the minority amoung 40 Million Brace Owners? but it’s business as usual for this newly " Fabricated Felon".

I only have One Brace equipped weapon…and I’ll do anything But register it as an SBR , if they manage to get away with this.

I’d rather permanently lengthen the barrel and remove the brace than just comply with an additional restriction that an SBR registered weapon creates for the average citizen.

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Here is the question I have,

If this rule stays in effect and is enforced, why continue to put braces on these new SBR’s in the first place? If they are SBR’s put a real stock on it.

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I’m sure it’ll end up becoming a preference on the type of style of brace the gun owner prefers over a stock or for disabled gun owners who need a brace.

Just spitballing on this…but.

I think an SBR application requires details on the said weapons configuration at the time of application.

With the above being what it is…and the BATFE granting a Tax Free 120 day period of registration for Brace equipped weapons.

Switching to an actual stock would go against the Tax Free ammnesty registration reasoning and could also been seen as an admission of intent to skirt the SBR rules all along.

I still think this is All going to get tossed out when the stream of Law Suits are filed…state and federal representatives are hammered to act in our favor…or the Courts simply tell the ATF to take a seat for violations of the 2nd Ammendment and the Americans with Disabilities Act.

This fight is Not lost… dont plan for a loss.

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IMO-Just another reason to abolish the AFT, the NFA and GCA. :+1:t2:

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that makes sense. And I don’t think it’ll stand either.

Lets keep all the brace stuff in a single thread please.