The “related problem” this other guy is having is complaining relentlessly that he bought a gun he did not do proper research on that isn’t suited for the purpose he wanted to use it for. I don’t see how that is the gun’s fault, to me, that’s someone who made an uninformed purchase and instead of owning up to it, is lashing out for his own mistake.
Of course, doing some browsing can reveal issues, because of course the few people in the minority that do happen to have an issue will be asking questions about it. The thousands of others that don’t won’t be, so you really can’t infer much from that alone.
And lastly, your posts implying your gun is a ticking time bomb even after being fixed and that everything PSA makes outside of ARs is questionable isn’t helping resolve anything for anyone.
Proper research doesn’t absolve a manufacturer of its duty to disclose material limitations. I paid ~$1,000 for an AK-V as a suppressor host and for defensive use. HST is extremely common defensive ammo; it’s not exotic. PSA’s product page made no mention that the gun will not reliably feed common hollow-point or flat-nose rounds.
I contacted PSA and they refused to perform an inspection or issue an RMA, instead giving canned “industry-wide” answers and suggesting I modify the gun myself. That’s not customer service, it’s a refusal to follow their published warranty process.
If you want to argue “do your research,” fine, but a simple, explicit line on the product page about ammunition compatibility would have changed my buying decision. That’s the actual problem here. And putting the onus on the consumer to have to look elsewhere for that information is lazy at best, and intentionally deceptive at worst. Sorry, but I come from a pre-internet age and I still think companies need to disclose that sort of pertinent information to consumers. We’re not wrong for taking them at their word, they’re wrong for abusing our trust.
Does chevy put a disclaminer on their truck page for it’s 6.2 engine: “We use this engine in the corvette but you shouldn’t expect corvette performance.” No, they don’t. Why? Because people do their research.
If you want a defensive gun, then a suppressed AR is the industry standard. Had you done research you would also know the issues of suppressing an AK, and that the AK-V has a gas block that sits forward of the barrel shoulder which could cause baffle strikes depending on how it is mounted. I spent hundreds of dollars getting my Obsidian 9 setup with 3 lug only to find out that it is not a solid enough lock up to prevent a baffle strike. Is that on Rugged? Nope. It isn’t. You are simply channeling your own failures to a company because you refuse to admit you didnt do your research.
Also, “defensive” ammo is probably something you will never shoot. I’m not saying don’t buy it or prepare, but the vast majority of people who prepare for a defensive situation never end up in one. That is a good thing.
This is a very long-winded way of dodging accountability for your own misjudgement.
I also use a 9mm PCC for home defense. Do you know what I picked? A Ruger PC Charger…because it eats everything. It’s reliable. It’s robust. It’s compact. It has a nice trigger. It takes Glock mags, which I can readily interchange with my two Daggers that I also keep stashed around. I verified all of this before I got it.
That’s called making an informed decision. What you are doing is tantamount to whining and nothing more, that is the actual problem here. Nothing on PSA’s end. It’s the equivalent of buying a niche car and complaining to the designers that the salesmen didn’t tell you it’s bad in snow. It would’ve taken you all of about 30 seconds of research to find out that 9mm ARs and AKs can be notoriously finicky and you chose one not only to run hollowpoints, but suppressed no less, in an environment where reliability is paramount. That is entirely on you and nobody else.
One more thing to add: many weapons exist for no purpose other than being range toys. I own multiple (most notably a Desert Eagle, a Colt Python, and a Walther PPK) and have spent good money on them knowing exactly what I was getting into with them. It isn’t on the manufacturers if I decided I want to try to use my DE for home defense even though it will experience hangups if your grip isn’t quite right.
i broke my moms akv trying to clean it.. psa sent me the entire guide rod assembly fully assembled in a big box filled with air pouches so i could just swap it in and shoot hundreds more rounds.. true story ask
Thanks for your thoughts. This thread is about PSA’s lack of disclosure and warranty handling, but you’re welcome to start a new one titled “I’m brilliant and everyone else who trusts manufacturers is a whiny moron, and companies have zero responsibility to inform consumers.”
@lonememe I invite you to see the post I already made in this forum… And since you muted this topic so you didn’t have to participate let me help you with the rest of the forum….
Can you show a picture of that rust just sitting in a case? Would like to see that while looking for a PCC and perhaps a Sub. I have owned some pretty cheap guns and never had a single one rust so that would be weird to me and will need a picture of that. Perhaps the finish is too thin or such. But I wonder I oil my gun and I do it once if will be away for a while, oil takes decades to break down so if constantly oiling it seems weird to me. Most gun oils have up to 10 year life span so constantly needing oil seems crazy.
