My AK-101 is eating firing pins. It will get through about five rounds before the sixth one will stop up. The free-floating pin is jammed and will not go forward.
When I remove the firing pin from the bolt, pieces of the pin fall out of the firing pin channel and the pin is clearly eroded. It has done this to brand-new pins. The one that it shipped from the factory with is completely useless.
Is this a situation where the rifle is so hopelessly overgassed, it is beating itself to death?
Sounds like ammo with corrosive primers.
Winch White Box?
It shouldnāt be corrosive. Is the firing pin rusting and pitting? What about the bolt face?
that is an odd situation for sure. how many fireing pins have you gone through? and this happens every 5 or 6 rounds you say? Iād send it back to PSA for repairs. If its doing it like that its repeatable, and thus they should be able to have it happen to them when they get it,.
your right Winchester white box should not be corrosive. i would not think its over gassing either. Iāve never seen an AK destroy its firing pin like this without corrosive ammo being used for years and years and not having been cleaned properly all the time. so iām at a loss. which is why i recommend contacting PSA for warranty support.
1300 rds of corrosive, same firing pin.
yeah, see exactly my point. ive got a Romanian that i built from a demilled Romanian kit, that has its original firing pin, and goodness knows what it fired before it was demilled and shipped over here, for us to buy and build, i bet it was hardly ever cleaned, and only ran corrosive ammo to boot. but no issues to my knowledge.. so idk.. iād contact Customer support for sure again.. which is why weāre trying to get them involved.
Iāve gone through two. The factory one and one from CSS.
Yeah, Iām gonna have to send it back. Again.
sadly i think so, this is definately not normal. Its not something ive ever heard of with an AKā¦ now , im no where near as educated on AKās as i am on my ARās other than that I built my first AK,ā¦ but that gun still has its original firing pin without issue.. so idk. whats the springs look like around the pin? are they looking overly strong? overpowered? just trying to think what could beat up that pin.
Poor metallurgy, probably overhardned.
could be.. but how often have you ever heard of that regarding an AK47 part?
Depends on the part. PSA AKs having parts that arent heat treated correctly (trunnions and firing pins mainly) are frequently reported. As are other issues that could cause this problem such as out of spec firing pin channels which could cause this, hes already posted that his firing pin channel is out of spec so the issues may be linked. We also know his rifle has heat treating issues if its on the same trunnion as its already lost headspace way too early. Hell assembly could cause it too, last guy who put his together put the rear trunnion in with a noticeable upward tilt.
Where are you hearing about trunions not being heat treated properly?
I could also speak to personal experience on the two I have owned previously. Both had poor metallurgy.
You are referencing a few versus āfrequentā. Does every gun manufacturer have a few guns that have to go back? Yep. But of the people I personally know who have PSA AKās (and being here in the midlands its not a few but hundreds) they are all gtg. I have 3 PSA AKs and all are gtg. I take youtube videos with a grain of salt because youtube videos are solely for one thing: clicks and $$.
The guy that posted the video you posted even had the first reply to his as āI own 7 PSA Aks and they are all gtgā.
Are you the same guy who was here a couple months ago constantly complaining about the AKs he āused to haveā and kept regurgitating talking points from reddit and youtube but couldnāt produce one shred of evidence on ever owning them, not a picture, not a purchase order, nothing at all?
Odd. Iāve got hundreds if not thousands of rounds through my PSA Ak103, Spiker, and GF5 with no issues of any kind. I had an issue with my KS47 once with the ejector but PSA took care of it and havenāt had any other problems with it since. I shoot mostly steel case import ammo.
So, now itās the āHeat Treatmentā youāve got issues with? Wasnāt it the Rivets you had trouble with last time? Man, you just have hella bad luck with your AK
whoah thereā¦ frequently reported? full on trunnions? please provide some examples for me if you donāt mindā¦ I recall there may have been issues when the very first akās were set out back years and years ago, but i do not recall anything at all as of the recent 5 or 6 years at all. hence why Iām asking for references. We donāt know if his firing pin channel is out of spec at all, it is a possibility, but we know nothing more yet as we havenāt gotten anything back from PSA, so Iād stop jumping to conclusions for now. Headspace? who said anything about headspace and the heat treating? youāve really stretched things out here from what we were talking about by posting sensationalist posts about things that may have happened a long time ago to older first run guns, but nothing that i know of to the later model guns such as the gf series guns for example. again, please post some links if you will to support this information about the trunnions being out of spec due to heat treating. You do realize that the firing pin does not reside in a trunnion right? it resides in the bolt which itself resides in a bolt carrier. yet another question, what are you talking about regarding this ālast guyā statement. it has nothing to do with the current discussion either. I would appreciate it if youād refrain from posting anything that does not help this discussion instead of posting things that are blatant overstatements that obviously are meant to cause arguments and disruptions.
OK, well now that iāve read on, and saw others challenged you for some form of references, and you posted some links. Lets seeā¦ The first one is from Regular Guy Training LLC with 92.7k subscribers, and they had posted this video 2 years ago. ā¦ 2 years.
The Second video you posted, was posted by Operator on a Budget with 19.2k subscribers and they had posted this video a whole 3 years agoā¦ . 3 years..
Interesting, this link, from AK Rifles, about the PSA AK 103 DESTROYING ITSELF well the interesting thing about this one, is that this is the article about Regular Guy Training LLCās VIdeo, and has it embedded right there at the top by about the third or so paragraph. which i might add, was posted 2 years and 6 months ago.
The next one, Carolina Firearms Forum, was posted 5 years ago, and had a great discussion on what to look for regarding an AK, about the only hit i could find really is that oe guy said imports are generally better than domestic AKās but iād even debate that these days. so thats all i got to say at this point regarding that article.
The Next article is quoted here on our forums, about the AK 101 eating itself, and you quoted the post of Benscottcollier which was posted on may 2021. this post was about the heat treatment issue on the front trunnion, which has of course been taken care of a long time ago, because guess what, they have Cold hammer forged trunnions in their AK rifles. front and rear, are all cold hammer forged, just like their barrels, and their bolts etc.
Iām sorry you could also speak to personal experience on the two youāve had owned previously. I could too, about the 3-4 PSA Akās iāve owned too. thereās always a flip for each coin.
well a simple explanation would be that itās starving.. make sure to feed it a healthy diet of steel casings regularly. i better check on my gf3 in the back room and make sure itās not eating my shoes.