My first Micro Dagger showed up at the FFL today. I haven’t shot it yet, but did some (ok, a lot of) general fondling and holster experiments tonight. Since I am just one of, I am sure, many people having their first experience with a Micro, I thought it might be good to start a tech talk thread on them, where we can all swap experiences/tech info on them.
Holster stuff to follow.
First up, micro dagger fits a Safariland Solis holster for the 43x/48 with weapon light. Fits fine both with and without the TLR7 Sub (see pic). It is slightly less smooth in and out of the holster than 43x MOS, but still 100% serviceable. Presumably it would fit just as well with the Nightstick or Surefire weapon light intended for the 43x.
Big win here, IMHO, the Solis is very affordable (less than $50 when on sale), fits all of the many Safariland mount options (paddle, belt, high, low, and mid rise, etc), features the ALS retention system, is cut for an optic, and fits any of the 3 weapon lights currently available for the Micro/43x/48 MOS platform.
For OWB holsters, this is everything I can imagine wanting.
Second up, the Micro does NOT fit my Safariland 7378 for a non-MOS 43/43x, nor does it fit my Kydex holsters for a non-MOS 43/43x. Not a surprise, my 43x MOS won’t fit any of those either, but I thought it worth a note.
HOWEVER
Micro slide installed on a plain Jane Glock 43x lower (non-MOS/no rail) fits both the 7378 and the various Kydex holsters perfectly.
Loaded Chamber Indicator/Extractor
Works great!!! Compact and full size Daggers loaded chamber indicator doesn’t work unless you swap extractors for a Gen 5 Glock extractor (possibly/probably others, have only tested Gen5 Glock and factory Dagger extractors in this regard). The Micro on the other hand works fantastic. Extractor is protruding when a round is in chamber, and sits below flush when no round is in chamber.
No round in chamber.
With a round in the chamber.
General comments on grip/trigger/etc ergonomics compared to a Glock 43x and a Shadow Systems CR920. This stuff is more subjective, so my opinions may not match up to yours.
Grip texture. The Micro has my favorite texture. The Glock is a touch too slick/not grippy enough, and the Shadow Systems is on the edge of too rough/too deeply stippled. The Micro is Just Right ™.
Grip ergonomics. The Micro is better than a 43x. Subtly more round and better contoured to a human hand than any Glock. The CR920 is about even with the Micro in terms of grip ergonomics. However, the CR920 doesn’t keep the heel of my hand out of the way when dropping a mag, but the Micro (and 43x) do. So overall win to the Micro.
Trigger - the Micro flat smokes the 43x and CR920. It’s smoother, lighter, crisper, has a nicer reset, and better feeling trigger shoe. I can’t think of a single thing about the Glock or CR920 trigger I like better.
Pointability - all three are pretty pointable for me, but I would rank the Micro and the CR920 pretty even, with the 43x a somewhat close second.
3re party feedback. All 4 of the guys at the gun shop, my wife, and my 3 friends from work who handled it in the parking lot later - 100% said something to the effect of “wow, this feels bleeping bleeping NICE in the hand. Where can I get me one of these?”
Your Review gets Two Snaps Up!
Thank You for taking the time to go over everything you’ve found. 
Good info, and heck yeah! Someone else actually likes the Dagger triggers! They are REALLY good triggers while still being safe. My Compact Daggers end up getting doubles sometimes if I fire from the trigger reset (bad habit I am working on untraining, thanks bad internet advice)
100% agree. Back before I picked up my first Compact Dagger, I had assumed going in that I would hate the stock Dagger trigger (probably based on my experiences with old M&P hinged triggers). I was already shopping around for other triggers before the first Dagger arrived. But, as it turns out, I really like the stock Dagger trigger. Especially after I do a $0.25 trigger job on them, replace the trigger return spring with a Lone Wolf extra strong spring, and then fire/dry fire about 1,000 rounds. At that point, it’s very buttery-smooth, reasonably light (without being unsafely light), with a well defined wall and break. It’s still no 1911, not by a long shot, but for Glock-like triggers, it’s as good as those get. And I like the flat-ish face, nicely curved, smooth surface trigger shoe better than any of the center-tab Glock and Glock-like triggers I’ve ever used.
One other bit of tech info - the Micro Dagger uses standard looking Glock style pins in the frame, and does NOT have roll-pins for the trigger/rear frame pins. The innards look like a standard 1-pin Glock.
On the one hand, it’s more convenient to not have roll pins, so I like that aspect of it. On the other hand, I felt that the one-piece frame rails+locking block design on the compact/full size Daggers was superior to the Glock design in terms of the block having much better leverage/mechanical advantage against the forces hitting the locking block. I’m sure this one will be just fine, so not worried about it, just making a note.
This was all probably obvious for everyone who stared closely at the pictures, - but, I was not aware of this before the pistol arrived so maybe worth noting here.
Hey, just got my micro dagger C-1. Opinions on holster(g48 or g43x holsters?!)and trigger upgrades appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
Just coming from Glocks and guns in general. Polish the internal trigger bits and that’s all the upgrades you need. NEED, not want. Can you get lighter, sure. Can you make 100yd shots with a factory Glock or Dagger trigger? Yes. Easily.
For OWB, I would highly recommend that Safariland I posted above.
I don’t have any 43x MOS IWB to compare.
Further updates
Function check - I took a long-ish lunch break from work, and ran the first 50 rounds through it. It ran like a sewing machine, 0 failures of any kind, 0 brass-to-face, 0 surprising behavior of any kind, and consistent ejection between 2 and 3 oclock. Hallelujah! The test load was just some basic run of the mill 124 grain TMJ standard velocity fodder.
Accuracy - seems to be at least as accurate as I am - everything clustered center-mass at 10 yards, and if I took my time and carefully squeezed one off, it was generally within an inch of the bulls eye.
Off to a great start! Already eyeing one of my 43x’s and a full size Dagger or two for sale to fund another Micro or two (but I’m going to want to see a solid 200 trouble-free rounds before I go that far).
Mounting a Holosun EPS Carry - SCREWS ARE TOO LONG (maybe good to go for a 407k/507k, which are a hair thicker, but I don’t have one of those to confirm/deny that)
Specifically - the screws that come with the Micro Dagger that say “Use these for a Holosun” and the screws that came with the EPS are TOO LONG!!! The original Holosun EPS screws that I had already shortened in order to mount the EPSc on the 43x (using the included Holosun plate) were short enough if I used the 43x mounting plate, but I really shouldn’t have to do that, so long term, I will be shortening up screws to mount it on the Micro.
Also, confirmed 100% for-sure-for-sure that the Micro fits fine in the Safariland Solis holster (the 43x version) with the EPS Carry mounted (see pics).
In the holster
The gun as configured while in the holster in pic above.
At some point after 200+ rounds in the factory config (assuming it remains flawless), I will test swapping the mag release for a Shield Arms release, and using Shield Arms mags. The included mag seems plenty nice, so I wouldn’t otherwise bother, but I already have half a dozen or so Shield Arms mags (most setup for 20 rounds with Tarran Tactical’s excellent +5 extensions). The SA mags have been 100% flawless for me in my 43x’s, so it would be nice if they ran in the Micro as well (though by no means required, and I would make no marks against the Micro if they don’t fly with it).
Update on the Holosun EPS Carry mounting. The OEM Micro Dagger screws are 0.425 inches long (says my calipers). I had to file them down to 0.360 max length, and 0.350 made me a little more comfortable I wasn’t interfering with the ejector pin slot.
So grab a file, get comfortable, and get to work - only takes about 10 mins.
Edit to add - I did mine with the OEM Micro Dagger screws instead of the OEM Holosun screws - as the Holosun screws were already cut down to work perfect for my 43x MOS. It wouldn’t matter which screws you filed down, I don’t think.
Weight notes - a Micro Dagger fully outfitted with a TLR7 Sub AND a Holosun EPS Carry - is still 10% lighter than a bone stock Compact Dagger.
Can we get a picture of the ejector? Since you mentioned no brass to face I assume they are using a more flat fronted gen 5 style. Which would make sense being a slimline Glock clone.
Not just “more gen 5 style”, it looks to be100% Gen 5 style. This thing has a breech face notch, teardrop firing pin hole, redesigned firing pin safety plunger, and everything. Check the pics and tell me if you could tell the diff between the Micro and a Gen 5 Glock. I can’t.
The breech cut is a nice addition. My early Gen5 34 didn’t have that. Still don’t get BTF with it but it does eject noticeably weaker than ones with it.
