And I am very new to the AR15 world, as a weapon to own. I was in the Army for some time, but didn’t really have an interest in owning a weapon…just shot what I was issued.
Is it possible to run a supressor on this weapon? What changes would have to be made and what are some good ‘bang for your buck’ supressors on the market?
Sure you can and you have lots of options. To start, at a minimum, you’re going to have to remove the standard A2 birdcage flash hider from the muzzle. There are direct thread suppressors which would fit directly onto the threaded muzzle. Or you can attach a new muzzle device with some sort of quick-detach design. Also, a large percentage of suppressors have a semi-standardized 1.75" internal thread, so you can fit most any can on most any muzzle device with an adapter.
Direct thread has the advantage of being lower cost and lighter weight, but at the disadvantage of not being as easy to attach/detach/move between guns. If you think that you are likely going to leave the suppressor on this gun and no other for months/years at a time, it’s a decent option. But they’re most often used for hunting rifles where the weight penalty matters more.
Quick detach is a rabbit hole of options. Plan B, YHM, Keymo, Surefire, and so many others. I don’t have any sense that there is one dramatically better than the others, but with the aforementioned adapters for can, I don’t know if it matters as much as it used to. Go on some place like Silencer Shop and look at QD patterns on cans you like and pick from that. Personally I don’t care for Surefire because carbon lockup seems to be a feature, not a problem. The official method of getting a stuck can off is to unlock it and “shoot it off.” No thank you. But they are popular, so there’s that.
As for which can or brand to get, honestly, they’re all pretty good. The top choices you’ll have to make are a baffle vs. flow-through design (traditional vs. new or maybe 3d-printed), materials (titanium vs stainless, mostly), and size. Bigger is quieter, usually, but at a length and weight penalty. Flow through is less gas in the face, but more expensive, maybe louder, and often heavier. Titanium is light, expensive, and makes sparks when shooting. Steel is cheaper, heavier, and very durable. 3D printing you can get a lot of good features for more money and as-yet not completely proven reliability.
Welcome back imjustabill1970. While I’m certainly NOT the resident expert on the subject I can say with fair certainty that, yes, you can run a suppressor on that. Any changes would depend on the suppressor used. You might want to check out SilencerCo. They should be able give you an idea what would work best for your situation.
On a personal note, I myself don’t like the idea of running a suppressor on a home defense weapon. If there’s multiple perps I want the rest to know when one’s FAFO’d and Ihopefully the rest run.
Not just my hearing, but my wife’s and my dog’s as well. I know what the alternative is and it wouldn’t stop me from letting the big dawg bark should the need present itself.
And big thanks to everyone for all of the info and help!
Another plus for using the suppressor is that the blinding flash is reduced. I haven’t fired much at night but have heard it can be bad. Maybe someone that’s looked at that could chime in?
Absolutely can run a suppressor on that. As mentioned a direct thread 1/2 x 28 will fit that.
Silencerco has may that will works as do may others. I just bought a Hybrid 46 since I have 45 on down. It did great on 300 BO subs but have not run 556 yet. That is Saturdays project. Under 600 and very flexible.
best part is that I bought and applied on a tuesday afternoon and picked it up thursday morning!
Shop around as they are getting sold out quickly and buy when you find one you like.
Run some drills. A 16" rifle with a can will not be easy to retrieve, shoulder, or move about in a house.
I’m not an operator but I wouldn’t want a 4 to 4.5 ft long tool in a small space with a loved one and a bad guy at the same time.
I’m sure most will disagree. I’m not saying don’t do it. Just try it out and think about it ahead of time. As with any other weapon/tool, train with it first.
Agreed. This is why I run a braced PC Charger for HD.
9mm isn’t quiet, but much less concussion and flash than 5.56, and fully deployed with a light the entire rig is 25" long. Shouldered, it doesn’t even reach the wrist of my arm extended. Very easy to move around with.
A 16" AR with a can is going to feel like wielding a rig with a 20" barrel in relatively tight quarters.
Suppressing a weapon could cause cycling issues. You may need different buffer weights. You may need to replace the gas block with one that is adjustable. You might need a different charging handle to reduce the blow back gases. You could also look at low back pressure or flow thru suppressors which often are not serviceable but don’t require as much tuning of the gun but are usually more expensive. The ammo you use could also be affected by adding a suppressor. Lots of options but also lots to consider.
yeah its lots to take in to consideration, but if you do suppress a home defense rifle, you would have tuned the rifle and had it running without issues, reliably so that the gun would be failproof (under normal operating circumstances) so i have no issue with running a suppressed weapon for home defense once youve testedd and tuned it.
There are suppressors that mount to a standard A2 flash hider. (Is the PSA A2 made to TDP, with BFA cut in the right place and diameter) The Griffin Gate-Lock is an example.
If you want to stay suppressed all the time, a direct thread is good. Ranger 5, GP5, and a lot of others.
After this, you get into QD mount cans. There are a few common patterns for this. Plan A, Plan B, Surefire, etc. They are NOT interchangeable, so read up on them.
Something you might not expect is how much the extra weight on the end of the barrel will change its balance. All other things equal, the lighter weight the better.
How much you shoot is another concern. Some lightweight cans are only built for a small number of rounds before cooling, and others (usually heavier) can handle back-back mags in full auto.
Picked up my first 556 can last night, After finally getting a 22 can a couple months ago due to fast turn around times. Shot 5 rounds last night just to try it, then just went through a few boxes just now after getting home from work. My god, there’s just no other way to shoot besides suppressed now I’ll be needing a decent 30 caliber can before Autumn
The can I am considering for the lr308 just came back in stock………but I just bought a zastava m70 over the weekend ………here’s to hoping the fast turn arounds are still happening in a month or two