.22 Bolt-action Rifle?

I am looking at .22 bolt-action rifles. I want one that is suppressor ready. Not looking for a tack-driver, just a relatively inexpensive target rifle (and squirrel shooter) that I can put a decent scope on to play around with. I will probably go with a Vortex Crossfire II 2-7x32 Rimfire.

I am considering these:

Ruger Precision,

Ruger American

Savage B22 FV-SR. I looked at the MK II FV-SR, but it felt cheap to me.

Can anyone share any first-hand experience with these rifles or recommend anything else I should consider?

Thanks!

i had the Precision its awesome, really good trigger too

I have the savage with a can and vortex 2-7. The rifle was $199 after rebate. Is an excellent shooter and ear safe with subs.


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Yeah, I like the Precision, and I liked the barrel/action on the Savage, just didn’t like the stock. It felt a little light/cheap.

The mk2 is what I have and is good. You can always get a different stock.

I wanted the same thing. Did zero research on options. Went to store, found a heavy barrel Savage Rascal. Checked all the boxes but it had an internal box magazine. Bought it anyways.

Got home and discovered that what I thought was an internal mag was actually just a follower that keeps the round lined up with the chamber. The follower drops as you close the bolt. Yep, it’s a single shot. Sick burn lol. It handles shorts just fine though!

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Unfortunately, I am the opposite, I probably research too much.

As for you GuitarGuy, I certainly wasn’t knocking your MK II, I was just hoping the stock was a bit heftier. I have looked at stocks but with the rifle and optics, a new stock and I might as well start looking at CZs or even Tikkas.

Deputy Fife only needed but the one Bullet - Ima Jus’ Sayin’…

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I have the Savage MkII FV-SR and let me tell you right out of the box that was accurate. I get what you’re saying about the cheap feeling, but after about 1000 rounds I realized the bolt action had smoothed out considerably. I also put it in an Oryx chasis (yeah I know it cost more then the rifle itself).

It is one of my fun guns that never disappoints. I also have a Ruger Rimfire Precision in 22LR and while I like that gun, it is a bit ammo sensitive and the action is a little cheap feeling as well. It stays at home more often then the Savage.

Well, I appreciate the input. May just settle for the MK II, it is just a plinker after all. I do wish they offered some options for the stock though.

It is a solid rifle. Like I said the action is a little rough intially but it smooths out. When I got mine my friend said to keep a couple of extractors on hand becuase he had problems with his breaking. I have probablyaround 2000-ish rounds on the gun and no issues at all. I just figured I would pass that along.

You could also check out Boyd’s for a replacement stock, I put one on a 10/22 and it is really nice and I want to say the price was sub-$200.

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Whenever I hear someone talking about one bullet, I always think of my father during WW2. He told me a story that after boot camp and before getting shipped overseas, he was stationed near some beach in Florida (I don’t remember which) and he would have to walk a patrol up and down the beach at night to protect against Germans from U-boats coming ashore. He was given one round and told to keep it in his breast pocket and only chamber it and fire as an alert to let the others know there was a problem. True or not? I can’t say but it was an entertaining story to me.

He went on to see action as a waist gunner on a bomber over Europe. Those stories he kept mostly to himself.

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I have the Ruger American, mostly because I have so many 10/22 magazines and I wanted compatibility. It works fine. Reliable, accurate enough, threaded barrel for a can which sounds great, no complaints. I had an issue with the bolt very early on with the bolt having a tiny paper thin sliver of metal under the bolt face area. I filed it off before it broke off and has never given me trouble.

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Thanks for the continued input.

Cool story Smokey. My dad was a kid during WWII. He found a German life jacket washed up on the beach at Hunting Island. They turned it over to the FBI and were told not to tell anyone.

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I do not know which boot camp he may have been trained at, but there is a place east of Apalachicola, Florida, on the coast called Camp Gordon-Johnston.
Many soldier’s were trained there, and within the heavily forested area inland known as ‘Tate’s Hell’. It still exists as a museum.

As far as aerial gunnery training, it most likely was Tyndall Air Force Base, then called Tyndall Army Air Corps Base or maybe just Tyndall Field which was common for Air Bases and Airports back then.

He may well have been at the school with none other than Clark Gable, the famous actor from 'Gone With the Wind. His picture is on the wall in the Wing HQ building.

Learning ballistics, and trying to learn how aim at a moving target while the platform that you are on is also moving is daunting to say the least.

One gunner who was also a waist gunner and had the highest percentage rate of actually hitting enemy planes - said - ‘To actually be successful in hitting attacking fighters was to throw out everything he was taught and go with gut instinct’. He learned by experience on his own that unless the fighter is coming straight in, or in a predictable straight line at angles, you do not lead the target - ’ You aim behind the target, then begin firing and sweep the line of fire, aided by tracer rounds from behind and through the target as his path is usually diving from above and through his target approach. ’ That is the only way to match his approach (or recession) speed, angular velocity, and path through space.

He was extremely successful at hitting and downing or repelling attacks using this method of feel, and intuition, adapting to the endless variations of different attack scenarios. Of course he learned from actual combat experience, and was fortunate enough to survive long enough to share and spread the technique and tactics with others. And word spread quickly across the forces on what did and did not work in practice.

Shooting birds, fowl and skeet are done with you standing on solid ground and leading a target going 30 miles per hour in a straight line. On an aircraft going 300mph and maneuvering against an aircraft traveling at 400 +mph in sweeping arcs is totally different. Dove hunting in North Dakota would be the exception. The learned to jink and jank and dart after the first day of hunting season- and the only way we could hit them was to hide behind huge round hay bales and fire after they flew over us.:rofl: Partridge and Grouse just tried to fly low, but predictable paths.

When I flew on the B-52 some models had manual track, manual range and on the D model where I sat in the tail - an optical gunsight. But that was last chance mode. We had radar track, radar range and a gyro stabilized, hydraulically driven turret which was aimed by a ballistics computer. The D, F and G had basically the same system with four .50’ cals. On the G and H the gunner sat up front, and had radar only. Early on the G had a TV camera, but it was deleted because it was useless. On the H model a much more sophisticated radar and guidance computer was employed along with a 20mm rotary cannon effective at farther distances.

We still learned ballistics to understand the system, and if I remember correctly, there were 21 ballistics computations to be made in order to achieve a firing solution. On the 20mm it supplied 300vdc to the primer through the firing pin, varying with air temperature and density to manipulate the primer to micro adjust and further refine ballistics. Engineers think of every aspect of a problem.

In world war 2 the gunner was the computer. Some guns were turret mounted, but all aimed by the gunner. I think that the tail gun on the B-29 Superfortress had a radar and computer for at least the tail gun position.

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What a coincidence, we were just down that way last week. Cool area and very fishy.

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Take a good hard look at the CZ rimfire series. I have had or shot many of the nicer .22LR out there. I built two from scratch and one I did some upgrades chasing the most accuracy that I could get. It is extremely hard to beat the build quality and accuracy of the CZ even one off of the shelf. They just feel more like a real centerfire rifle so they are good to train with or to just hunt with.
I have a CZ455 Target that I upgraded, a CZ457 Precision that I built. The CZ457 is insanely accurate. A Ruger 10/22 that I built from a standard model into a target rifle. CZ offers you family heirloom quality firearm for a very reasonable price.




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Thak you for that info bonamoleonard. I appreciate it.

There is so much information I wanted from my dad about his wartime experience but he never would provide any detail just general information relayed in stories. He would never provide details about anything while he was overseas. The only thing I have from his military service is his discharge papers, a couple of pictures and his sergeant stripes all of which I found after he passed and was going through his things.

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No doubt the CZ is a fine rifle. I looked at the 457 as well as the Tikka and was impressed but, they are both nearly double the cost of the others I am looking at and that is not counting optics.

Those are some beautiful rifles and I appreciate the input.

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My Dad was an Army Air Corps enlisted Pilot flying Troops and cargo in North Africa and Italy. He made it to SSgt. Towards the end of WW2 he transfered to the Navy and became a Torpedo Dive Bomber Pilot. He was born in 1917. My brother has his Army service coat, and I have his Enlisted Pilot Wings.


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