Battle Belt - Tactical Belt - Duty Belt

General Discussion
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well i did buy a belt… I got a tacticon Armament belt. As im configuring my loadout, i dont know if i feel that i should buy a ifak or not. i say that as the purpose of the belt is mostly range and home use. i can see how it may be helful when not at home, like at the range, as you never know what can happen, yes but its a huge amount on a small pouch to take up already precious limited real estate. So idk…

I’m already running a drop leg holster (right handed)
then a single battle tourniquet.
then a medium dump pouch.
3 rifle magazine holsters
with pistol mag holsters on top of them
and thats it. I still have to get my Seal Pup kn ife a place on the belt too… and im real close to being out of real estate. .

Im a big guy so i’ve pretty much maxed out the length of the belt now, and ive used up a lot of the space for other pouches or items. so putting an IFAK next to the single tourniquet would be difficult at best space wise… plus a place for the knife makes it even harder. lol…

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I ran out of real estate fast because I’m in a size small belt.
I have no plans for a individual ifak but I did buy a kinda catch all pouch. ** Pictured
I chose this over a dump pouch so it can serve multiple purposes.
I wish now that this was vertical instead of horizontal.

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If you wear cargo pants you can fit a bunch in a cargo pocket. I tend to use 1 quart zipper lock freezer bags.
Compact chest seals
Wound packing gauze (with or without hemostatic agent)
6" compression dreasing
2 pair nitrile gloves
NPA w/lube (Naso-Pharangeal Airway)
Derma safe folding razor
Some of mine also have Decompression needles.
Other thigh pocket gets a TQ.

Ankle kits are also avalible.
TQ
Compression dressing and
wound packing gauze
At least that was in the last one I looked at.

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I figure if I was going to be setting up a belt or chest rig an ifak is a must have but it doesn’t need to be comprehensive. A decent stop bleed kit is the main thing. The fact that most if not all of us won’t be going into a war zone but knowing accidents happen, stopping a bleed and keeping someone alive until the EMS gets there is the main need. We ain’t suturing anything, setting any bones and honestly most of us will just be larping at the range. Stopping a bleed and dealing with shock will be the best we can do as we wait for the pro’s.

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Since the IFAK/trauma kit/PFAK /Blow Out Kit came up…
At minimum please find a local to you, Stop the Bleed course. If you have the finances a 1st Aid & CPR course never hurts as it covers some other critical skills.
Shameless plug for a Joe Dolio book TW-05 aka Tactical Wisdom series Book 5, First Aid.
It gives a tiered system of First Aid kits.

I had several calls on the ambulance with older gentlemem having accidents and being on blood thinners that required pressure dressings or tourniquet to stop the blood loss. Power tools and chopping or slicing tool mishaps.

As much as I wish these accidents did not happen, they do. I hope all are prepared for that rainy day.

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I suck. I’ve been lagging. Just yesterday I was returning from shooting a new (max9) and a half new (dagger) for testing. 2 loaded guns. Mags galore, extended mags, pouches, several holsters and ammo all over myself and the passenger seat.

Suddenly 3 back to back sneezes left snot all over my face. I struggled to find a TISSUE. Swerving on a two lane road, wondering if I should pull over to continue my search for a tissue, or something…

Long story short… I doubt I’m stopping the bleeding and saving a life when I can’t stop the snot and save my own face. Here I need to stop the blood in an emergency and I can’t even locate a simple tissue.

Shame!!! I need to do better. :pensive:

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Oh. I did find 3 tissues, I used 2, saved 1. I left it there for a “rainy day” :rofl:

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Fast-Food napkins in the Console or Glovebox….

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When you get old you’ll start carrying a handkerchief :wink: @California_Refugee

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nooooo handkerchiefs! Ew. I do keep several packs of tissues stashed in various areas of my truck, coat and lunch box.

@AZ_Joe you are right. Without training, you’ll suck… and probably die. (Garand Thumb)

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That’s exactly what I had. Lol

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Aw hellz nah!

I’m not a germaphobe but handkerchiefs have haunted me since I was just a young buck.

Grandma: “Harry, hand me your hankie… come here boy and clear that outta your nose so you don’t keep sniffling all day”…

Grandma proceeds to suffocate me with grandpas dirty handkerchief.

:cry:

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Take your pick. Here are some real “battle belts” that are over a hundred years old and just as strong today as they were when new back then. I am joking to a certain point but in a pinch they would be better than a regular belt and pants. I wonder how many of the current day battle belts will be on display hanging on someone’s wall a hundred years from now. I have a few belts set up for different senarios.

If I am in a real emergency and time is a critical factor I am not screwing with a battle belt. I am grabbing my plate carrier and my 300bo SBR. If time permits then I would grab a belt also. My plate carrier already has everything that I really have to have. Grabbing a battle belt would be great to have along with my plate carrier but it isn’t an absolute necessity for me.

I haven’t really thought about it before now but I wonder if I can figure out a system to put one of my smaller oxygen cylinders on my plate carrier. It may seem silly me saying that but up two years ago I was prepared to handle just about any type of senario. Many of those senarios I already have real world experience in them. After covid I still have all of the necessary equipment but I am really limited in what I can realistically physically accomplish.

To a certain point covid is a cruel joke on me. I say all of this because I was blind sided by covid. I had all of the boxes checked off on being prepared for most senarios. Life and Murphy’s law has a way of finding the things that you overlooked or didn’t know was coming no matter how prepared you think that you are. Just some food for thought.

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My Dad did that all my life - it always kinda grossed me out, having that “snot rag” as he called it, in his hip pocket.

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we called them booger vaults. :sneezing_face:

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Gotcha. see even with me being in the biggest belt they make i just couldnt fit everything i think i wanted on it. I still have to tweak the locations on things before i am super content, but once i do i’ll lock down what i have now and then see if i’ve got any where open still.

hahaha too funny..

exactly, this is where i keep all my extras. its good especially to have on the road trips.

ooohhhh nooo.. thats super disgusting. if its not disposible im not using it and not carrying it for sure. a snot rag you just keep using is super gross, and its also just not practical, if you had the sneezes like California did there, that rag would be cashed by just 2 of his 3 sneezes. and you’d need more and what are you gonna do then? disposable is the way.

exactly this. i concur.

me too to be honest. grandpa always had his in his back pocket, and used it, and then offerered it to me or my sister or whatever, and thats just ick!!! no thanks. cnat do it ..

see i have no plate carrier, no chest rig, and no ability for being able to carry a plate carrier due to th e weight and my weakness. The battle belt so far isnt too heavy for me to carry empty.. once i load it up with mags and gun and whatever else, i’ll have to see how it feels and weighs in then. Back when i was healthy, i had planned on a full chest rig, with plates, a chest rig setup, and a belt rig setup too.

a small oxygen cylinder on a belt may be a doable thing, or on your plate carrier. especialy if you can set it up to mount on the back somewhere and yet be able to balance the weight of it too somewhere on the back. I feel you about up to 2 years ago being ready for any scenario. before the illness i was setting up myself for that too. now i’m having to reassess my plans. hence the belt.

I think you’ve done damn good after been being hit by covid and then re-assessing. GOtta keep on keeping on though.. and re-assess and move forward there too.. you are a heck of an inspiration man. dont ever let anyone tell you otherwise. :slight_smile: but geeze dude.. that wall of packs and helms is impressive as hell. what a kick arse collection you have there. im impressed.(as usual)

the way it was explained to me is this, the snot rag in your back pocket opposite your wallet is for you, and the one in your front jacket left upper pocket, or your front upper left shirt pocket, is for the ladies that are in need.

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When I was talking about my battle belt I was also thinking about the total amount of weight that I am trying to carry. Weight is a factor for everyone but it is even more of a critical factor for anyone with a disability or even someone that is just out of shape. I can’t function to any acceptable level anymore carrying anywhere near the weight that I use to be able to do. My plate carrier alone is heavy enough so that if I had to move around much at all there is no way that I realistically can carry my plate carrier and a battle belt also. It would tire me out way too quick. I haven’t had my full armored plate carrier with neck, shoulder, groin, lower back and side protection on for any real length of time since covid. In all honesty the full plate carrier alone is probably too heavy for me now to really be able to do anything to physical with it on. Physically I have the strength to wear it. I don’t have the stamina or lung capacity to really move around too much with it on without bottoming out the oxygen level in my blood before I can recover. If my son was with me I would give him the plate carrier. I would wear my IIIA vest with one of my tactical vests and a battle belt. I would rather my son have the most protection anyway. Me getting KIA isn’t a big deal, buzzards gotta eat too.

The real old school battle belt is the duty belt that all law enforcement officers have. I weighed my LE duty belt one day back when I was in LE. My duty belt weighed around 25 lbs with everything that was on it. Then add in a level IIIA vest most officers are walking around daily with around 30 lbs of gear every day. It takes a good while to get used to carrying just that amount of weight on you when you are having to do all of your regular duties. I am not even going to talk about having to fight with it on or having to chase someone because it throws off your center of gravity. Guys if you plan on using a plate carrier or a battle belt for any real type of situation I can’t stress enough for you to practice moving around and running with it on. This is in addition to practicing with it enough to be able to be proficient using it. You should be able to use everything on your carrier or belt without having to look down to get something or putting a magazine back in your belt or carrier. Yes, you don’t always drop your magazine. If you are in a real situation and have fired some rounds out of a magazine and you get a chance to put in a full mag do it. Then replace the partiality used mag back in a mag pocket in case you need the rounds that are left in the mag. I usually keep a spare box or two of ammo ammo in my plate carrier to top off any half full mags or reloading a empty mags. If you just drop every empty mag you may end up regretting it. Yes there are times to just drop empty mags but also practice grabbing a fresh mag, swapping mags and replacing your mag back in your belt or carrier. It isn’t hard to do and it doesn’t take that much extra time if you practice doing it.

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My belt isn’t finished, but when it is, it’ll be a sight lighter than my tool belts were. Which is good, because I’m a sight weaker than back then.

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yeah most of the items i believe are too heavy for me to wear at all, now. much less wear and have to carry a full size rifle with too. which is why i opted for the belt itself instead of a full plate carrier, or a full vest. You getting KIA though you may have wrong.. as the knowledge you alone have would be worth protecting more than a younger fighter…unless that younger fighter has all the same knowledge you have as well… which your son may have in that scenario, but either way i wouldnt write you off as buzzard food too quickly lol. I think you may wanna put on your IIIA vest and battle belt and a rifle and see how heavy it is for movement.. i bet you’ll be surprised how quickly it sucks the oxygen out of you as the weight will be too much.

i agree with what you’re saying about mags too.. you can also u se your drop pouch to carry the mags instead of throwing them / dropping them where they lay. . I like the idea of carrying extra box or two of ammo.

its good to see you posting up again Greg! i was worried you had gotten sick again. but seeing you post has re-assured me you’re ok!

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I have had a sore throat and chest congestion. As you know being on oxygen chest congestion isn’t a good thing to get. Between it and chronic fatigue from long covid wipes me out
Oh no I don’t mean that I am just going to hand myself over now. After all the crap I went through with covid and basically little to no chance of surviving I damn sure not going to go easily. I want to take as many of my opponents as possible before I go. I have always remembered the poem, “Don’t go gentle into that good night.” When you understand that night is a metaphor for death you understand the meaning of the poem.

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be ■■■,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.