So this whole time, even serialized pistol frames didnât meet the ATFâs standard for what constitutes a receiver?
Hmmm⌠What publicly traded companies manufacture or sell mini-mills and lathes? Cause their stonks are about to rocket to the moon!
And now that 3D printing has become so prevalent, lol, good luck getting people to sign a 4473 for a spool of filament. And heck, if just printing an unserialized frame is worth a felony, might as well go full brrrt. They donât realize the hornets nest they are kicking for political points.
Pandoraâs box is too wide open. You can burn books, but the information within lives on forever.
The guns that the decendants of current generations find after we are long gone are going to be some of the most effective and untraceable firearms of all time.
That is my understanding. Technically that is the definition for ar lowers also. They are not firearms.
Well, lucky for me I donât believe in ghosts. 
No seriously though how many idiots are going to pile 80%ters up in the street and say âUncle Joe says I canât have these.â?
I doubt many. They currently donât have a serial numbers and canât be tracked. However, this could potentially put companies like p80 out of business.
False. A completed and serialized frame or receiver is considered a firearm. Thatâs why companies like PSA will only ship receivers to FFLs.
What Biden is going after are unfinished receivers or frames that do not have serial numbers, and cannot be built into a firearm until after you perform machine work to the part. Such as milling out the trigger pocket on an AR or cutting in slide rails on a 1911.
He thinks criminals are doing this to circumvent background checks. (So he says). We all know itâs MORE expensive to buy an 80%, then buy jigs and tooling to mill it, than it would be to just buy one already done; and that criminals will either buy stolen guns on the street, steal them themselves, or ask a non-criminal buddy to buy it for them (straw purchasers)
So itâs safe to say, he is really going after the citizens right to build a firearm without permission of the government; so that the government knows who has guns.
that visit that the feds dropped on P80 wasnât good for business either. âallegelyâ, they seized their sales records. which really isnât much of an issue, because I can shop the olâ interwebs and find a P80 kit (frame, jig, tools) for around $129 from maybe 20 different vendors. the alphabet boys just donât have the resources to track down every P80 distributor, then get a subpena for every one of their distributorsâ sales records and find all the P80 product salesâŚ
I think the bigger concern that we all may share is that they also want to serialize âmajorâ components - uppers, barrels, BCGs, etc. But I just donât see it happening. Too much blowback from MFRs and private citizens.
Then again, I may be wrong. Wonât be the first timeâŚ
If I understand this correctly we will have time to still buy them during the discussion period?
Yes
How about 79.5% or will it go so far as to be a block of aluminum?
This is so ridiculous. Leave it be
The way I read it, the proposed rule changes will apply to non-serialized firearms.
That would include all those inexpensive 22LR rifles & handguns made before 1969 per the GCA of 1968.
How can a government agency burdened with enforcement rewrite established law & change definitions in existing law?
Those 23,000 non-serialized firearms used in the claimed crimes over the past several years were likely stolen guns that had the serial numbers filed or ground off by the criminals themselves.
You gotta read what they say & how they twist it to fit their narrative.
They are having turn in your nerf and toy gun drives in New Jersey or something sooo anything that can make a gun or look like one theyâll try to put a stopâŚ
MAGA unite!
Biden should get Gun Salesman of the Century Award
@barnes1182 he has a long way to go to beat FBHOâs 8 yearsâŚ
Not before I buy enough to build an armoryđ¤Ł
I wonder if this will extend to all parts at some point. They are redefining what a firearm is with a stroke of a penâŚno courtâŚno legislature. So, it stands to reason that at some point they might consider an upper a key component and require a number and background check on those as well. Thoughts?