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Copycat? Trump-Hating Trans Teen Arrested Over Plot to Shoot Up, Bomb Middle Schools and Churches - Manifesto Found https://www.westernjournal.com/copycat-trump-hating-trans-teen-arrested-plot-shoot-bomb-middle-schools-churches-manifesto-found/
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They are all copycat when you get down to it, and by copycat i mean attention seeking mentally ill people who are angry at themselves but take it out on the world.
There wouldnât be copycats if the media would just stop promoting them.
They published the manifesto of the uni-bomber years ago, yet they refuse to publish the most recent. This is all scripted in my eyes.
Also an axe attack in Brazil
i think weâre too lienient too on these copy cats. if we were just to grow a pair and have a public execution of the first one of these pieces of Junk that does this instead of making them celebrities like the media does now weâd have a lot less copy cats i would bet. Im talking like straight up fireing squad, 7 dudes with llike 50 cals, from like 20 yards and all have hot loads, broad cast the entire thing on a TV channel called REAL JUSTICE. camera is just on the spot where the perp is standing countdown from 10, and when you hit 1 all of them fire. and we just watch whats left of the lowlife basically explode from 7 different rounds of 50 cal impacting at near enough the same time. I also think this would work well with sexual preditors⌠and just about any other low life we want to get rid of. but i digressâŚ
Assclown of the dayâŚ
That would be a good topic to start @spook
GCO, thinking this through I think your firing squad idea provides gratification for society, but unduly rewards the murderer with an easy way out. As appealing as the idea appears on first read, I canât get behind it.
Warning â Iâm going to be long-winded in this reply.
The problem is that most of these shooters are so mentally unstable that they have a death wish, and people who have a death wish are going to exhibit behavior that is unpredictable, impossible to control and impossible to foresee. People who are so messed up that they become school shooters have reached a point of futility in their lives where they want to die, but they want to bring enough attention to themselves in their final actions to give themselves some perception of control over their life by exerting fleeting, yet absolute control over a small environment, so that their life has at least one final moment of âmeaningâ to them. Itâs a twisted exercise intended to bring some meaning to their meaningless life.
Because they are essentially impotent cowards, they have to arm themselves with a weapon and go to a school where the weakest members of our society (children) are defenseless. They do this so the power of the circumstances is heavily leveraged in their favor allowing them to exert dominion over as many people as possible. Those moments of absolute control over life or death make them feel empowered in a very sick sort of way, and they get a brief sensation of happiness and total control.
In all likelihood, every school shooter expects that theyâre going to be killed by LE when the active shooter response comes. I have to consider that these school shootings are actually attempts to perform suicide by cop, in a twisted set of circumstances that the shooter thinks will attach some significance to an otherwise insignificant life. People who become school shooters are insignificant people who society would not remember if it were not for the school shooting. They perform these heinous acts in an effort to assure that they are remembered for their significant criminal behavior rather than being forgotten for a life of insignificance.
I donât think that trials, press circuses and firing squads with explosive bullets are the best way to handle this. School shooters are the outcry of a sick mind that wants recognition, and suicide by cop. The question becomes one of how do you handle these people with severe mental illness.
The hand-holding side of me wants there to be better mental health care in America so that people who are â â â â â â in the head can be prevented from performing these sorts of heinous actions that destroy society. The trigger-pulling side of me realizes that no amount of improved mental health care will be effective in stopping all school shootings, so weâre going to have to continue to deal with them. Thereâs no escaping that weâre going to have to deal with more of them in the future, so the question has to be one of how we are going to deal with them. Hardening our schools is an obvious priority. Now how to manage the people who become shooters â
If all else fails and we have the result of an active school shooter I think that the best way to handle these problems is in real-time, where the police act to stop the shooter, and incapacitate him (her) to put an end to the threat, but donât kill them. Why not kill them? Because a quick and merciful death is exactly what the shooter wants â they want an end to be put to their miserable life via suicide by cop. They want to die quickly and without pain. IMO society should not reward a criminal mass murderer with a quick and easy way out of the situation he/she created and suicide by cop does exactly that. Rather than acting to kill the shooter, LEâs first priority should act to incapacitate and disarm the shooter, putting an end to the threat to the children in the school, and making the site safe for first responders and ambulance crews to come in and deliver emergency care to the victims. Itâs only fair that the victims are triaged to be first in line to receive care, to prioritize the delivery of care to the innocent victims who need it most. Assuming that the shooter is still alive and incapacitated, he would be marginalized while everyone else received prioritized care. Most likely the shooter would bleed out in a slow and painful death, with enough time to contemplate that society continues to ignore him as the first responders prioritize their attention to the needs of all of the innocent victims.
Iâm not in favor of the public execution idea. Though it would provide good closure for many people who want to see these sorts of murderers get their just desserts, the problem is that to get to that point we as a society have to endure the pain of watching the news media glorify the actions of a rabid animal end exploit the situation for someoneâs political gain. We get a media circus, a trial circus and an execution circus. Those 3 circuses give the sick-minded murderer exactly what they wanted to obtain by performing the school shooting â recognition, notoriety and remembrance.
To be effective in preventing school shootings, society has to adopt a plan that is uniformly applied and that plan has to deny everything that the school shooter is trying to achieve. Schools need to be hardened so that school shooters canât get what they want. The shooters need to know that if they are successful in initiating a school shooting, LE will put an end to their actions, but they cannot expected to be rewarded for their actions with quick and merciful death, or being remembered for their actions. They need to understand that they will continue to remain insignificant and will never be remembered, and that performing the school shooting will not give them what they want to achieve. Instead of becoming famous they will be treated as an anonymous perp who got shot by LE who incapacitated him but did not kill him. He needs to know that he will be left crying for mommy as he bleeds out in the corner of a school classroom while society continued to ignore him as the first responders prioritized care for his victims. Once he is dead his remains will be cremated and his ashes dumped into the sewage treatment plant where there wonât even be a tombstone with his name on it. Then perhaps the copycats will realize that they have nothing to gain by becoming copycats.
So wife just showed me a headline that the âMr. Beastâ youtube guy had a sidekick that probably drank too much Bud Light and now he came out as a âgirlâ.
I didnt read it, dont care. World is falling apart.
Something truly ironic about this? Give me 5 names in less than 30 seconds. Names, not events.
Whatâs the word on Nebraska carry? Lb 77
This! yes
Mk, Im not too worried about letting the criminal have an easy way out by firing squad. I just want them dead, fast as possible, both for the fact heâll no longer be in society causing mayhem and for the fact that we wouldnt have to flip the bill for keeping him healthy and alive in a cell for the next 40+ years until they pass away from natural causes such as old age. I get that it may not be for everyone, but its a little pipe dream for me anyways, as weâd never go to that in our society. too many âinnocentâ lives could / would be lost by being not guilty oopsies.
well the ones that have death wishes maybe we could setup some sort of running man games for them and let those who want to volunteer for it? that way they can have their proverbial cake and eat it too⌠just another thought. afterall what more would starring in a popular (and we allknow that sort of show would be popular cause most of us are sick that way) gameshow would get them the noteriety that they crave. could be a good alternative for them to shooting up little kids in schools. just another thought⌠again.
you know now that im thinking some, what im really surprised about if these guys are all really looking for fame on some sort of level , instead of school shootings what im surprised we havent seen more of is the Olâ DC Sniper style shootings. you know hide in the back seat fold down / trunk and shoot folks from the cover of a closed trunk through the keyhole snipe someone, and then drive off in the chaos, like those 2 did in DC. I remember the amount of terror and dead they racked up⌠quite scary⌠and yet, weâve not had more than them to do it⌠hell i dont think weâve even had a copy cat shooter do something like that⌠and if we did it was a long long time agoâŚ
Speaking of copy cats. ;⌠as pissed off as most of our countrymen are, im surprised we havent had more folks impersonate, or clone, or copycat our disgrunteled hero âKillDozerâ and weld up some steel to their very own bull dozer or backhoe or whatever and re-enact the Reign of terror that he did in his little california town somewhere else, like oh i dont know, some government buildings in xyz town in xyz state again⌠yet again, no copy cats here either. odd⌠why only copycats on school shootings? hell we dont even get copy cats going into â â â bars shooting them up anymore⌠its always school shootings⌠that to me is just odd⌠almost like its planned out, i say this due to the lack of copy cats in all other forms of domestic assults and terrors. but i digressâŚ
how to handle these folks with mental illnesses⌠i see what youâre saying, and i get meaning good and all, but by this time that they are so far gone to have picked up a rifle and planned a school shooting one could argue that they are too far gone already⌠Who am i to get in the way of someone wanting to take their own life, even if it is by cop. Shooting up a school guarantees it in my plan by 2 ways, either they get waxed in the field while the attack is on going, or they get arrested, tried, and taken out back immediately after the trial and shot dead. yes the trial does make it take some time, and hopefully its just enough time for them to be remourseful and to realize oh sheet im gonna die, maybe i didnt think this out far eno⌠TOO LATE.
I would also argue that if someone is that much mentally ill, they would have popped up on the radar of being mentally ill before this situation could ever arise, and somewhere someone or something failed them. be it their parent, their guardian, their psychaitrist, or whatever, and theyâve progressed the wrong way in their treatment schedule. I have a hard time thinking that someon is going to just be all of a sudden mentally ill to the point of wanting to shoot up a school as the first thing they think of, iâm saying that their illness had to progress from starting out, to being as extreme as it is at that point to want to kill little school kids. who knows maybe im wrong, but what if im right? yeah i know, this no mercy thing is heartless, but you see the point right? even if we dont agree on it. Just as i see your side of wanting to hand hold and have better mental health care. the first thing we should do there agian is re-open asslyums. we got rid of most of those years ago when we started arresting everyone who was mentally ill instead of putting them into an asslyum to have them get treatment, weâd put them in with murderers and rapists without the chance of getting better, and in fact most time they get worse, much worse. I agree we should harden our schools immediately.
i get what youâre saying about not killing them, but sometimes when you have an active shooter and they are armed and active, you will shoot to kill instead of maim because that dude is doing the same thing in regards to you and anyone else gets in front of him. sometimes its not only easier to just kill the shooter you find, than to take them into custody because you may not know if theres another shooter, or that you have the drive to live without being injured trying to take the guy down unharmed.
i get your poiont on the not in favor of public executions, but honestly as a civilization weâve done it all throughout history. hell even our nation has done it i think back in the 50âs or 60âs with that man and woman spy they found spying for the russians they hung in public for that one. i think it was 60s under kennedy maybe now i think about it. or right before his time. the great thing about the public executions are if you dont wanna watch them, you dont have to.
I dont think denying everything the shooter is trying to achieve would stop them. i dont even think it woul change their plans enough to make them change locations / targets. people gonna do what people gonna do. some folks just have a better or more amount of self control than others. I do agree though that we need to harden schools more, just in case school shooters, or anyone else wants to hurt our kids. I do also think our teachers should be able to conceal carry in their work environment after additional training to our standard cwp training. Dont get me wrong iâm all for Law enforcement, but just remember when youâre in dire need of Help and seconds matter, the police is only minutes away. SO if you cant defend yourself and yours, who will. I also agree we need to ensure we do not celebratize the school shooters at all, or for that matter we should not do it to ANY shooters or criminals who try to do nefarious things. I like the idea of cremating their remains, and umping them into a garbae plant or even a landfill for all i care, so no one can make a shrine of their remains resting place.
sorry for the long winded reply⌠;TLDR.
@California_Refugee yes the world is falling apart.
The only reason I can think of that its always a school is for one, the media always pushes that and has sensationalized that more than any other venue. Second, its a gun free zone and these people are cowards by nature and would never walk into a place where a person with a gun might be present.
Any thoughts above and beyond that containing words like âplannedâ would just be my tin foil hat taking over.
The cowards part is interesting and thinking they would never walk into a place with a gun present is also interesting. Reason being is most of these people dont hit it and run. They just stay put and hunker down after the shooting and pretty much wait for the inevitable storming of cops and getting shot and killed. So assuming they are cowards but also knowing its a suicide mission is interesting I guess??
Maybe the MK Ultra brainwashing makes them target shools only? Oops, tin foil hat is taking over again 
One thing I do know is they want to take guns away form all the âRight wing crazy peopleâ and all these shootings are always mentally ill left wing crazy people.
I never heard of that. I looked it up and unfortunately I dont speak politicians language lol. I found a 1000 plus page PDF file and its riddled with everything under the sun. After searching the file for âlb77â I think itâs basically saying the permit fee is waived. I believe you still need to go through all the channels as far as classes and permits and permit renewals but they no longer charge a fee for a permit.
Iâll have to look into it more. Iâm not good with stuff like that.
Well now after wasting lots of time trying to read the PDF pages from the government and reading a few news headlines that actually use the english language. It does say it allows permitless carry.
I guess going directly to the source makes it muddier as compared just reading a few headlines lmao.
It looks straong as far as votes, but of course Lincoln and Omaha are strongly against it. As it is now we can open carry with no issues but Omaha does not allow it.
Apparently the chief of police in Lincoln says this will put officers lives in danger (pure BS) because as it is right now there are tons of people doing concealed carry WITH a permit in Lincoln and no officers lives are in danger today.
Thanks btw. I was not aware of LB77