Can we have psa manufactured and branded metal magazines if so throw some suggestions.
For the AR platform or handguns? They have AR metal mags with a PSA floorplate.
Just want to see psa made and affordable handgun magazines
Unfortunately its hard to beat the magpul pmag in terms of cost. PSA does make metal mags for their 5.7 Rock, and the upcoming microdagger will also have a PSA magazine in it.
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Like secondary production
Mags actually are not as easy as it may seem. You have to sell thousands to recoop the manufacturing cost. Thats on top of the R&D needed to produce them.
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Can they come slightly affordable at some point?
Probably, but there is not a way to guess that pricepoint, especially in this economy. You have R&D, then you have to stop production of something else and tool up to make the mags. That costs money. Then you produce a prototype that has to be thoroughly tested. You either retool for whatever it is you were making or the machine sits idle during testing. Both cost money. A thorough test is probably 10-15k rounds in various guns of the platform. All this takes time, as in months to a year.
That’s why so many rifle wildcats/variants (such as 300blk) use mags that are already in existence.
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What about oem duplicate with copyright permission and loyalty fees?
The juice isnt worth the squeeze. Look at AR metal mags. Almost all are made by the same company but have a different floor plate. There is a reason for that. You dont fix something that isnt broken.
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Well that’s one dead end
Got one more route what about when the data package patent expires?
Keep in mind if you go the polymer route a mold for a single mag is in the $50k range…just for the mold. At $10mag you have to sell 5000 just to pay for the mold. Double or triple that for the R&D to get to the point to make the mold…
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That’s not the issue. Time and money is. PSA aquired H&R over a year ago. Then they aquired Nodak Spud last December. They had all the data from both companies. It still took all that time before lowers were finally sold last week. H&R lowers went for $160 because of the slight changes vs a regular AR15 lower.
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Being in the Injection Molding industry, I have come to learn that obtaining that mold is just the first step. They almost NEVER produce acceptable parts right away - there is “tuning” modifications to the mold to bring parts up-to-spec, which can take two to six months. Post-testing once decent parts are being made….
It goes on.
The direct-cost of the new mold is probably 10%-25% of the outlay, just to reach that first run of good parts.
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Some steel surplus style AK mags would be cool. Some steel reinforced, poly Glock mags would be really cool. The issue for that is it complicates production more and adds to cost, as now you would need molds and dies. Another issue is surplus mags are easy and cheap to find, and could PSA offer a OEM Glock style magazine cheap enough to make people buy it over OEM Glock magazines.?.?
PSA might would do better offering magazines for other popular pistols which generally use steel magazines, and who’s OEM magazine prices are $40, $50+. M&P, XDm, CZ’s, SIG’s, FN’s, H&K’s, etc. Then it would go back to justifying the cost to tool up for all these platforms. Not only tooling cost, but you need the real estate and factory to produce them, you have to hire and pay new employees, etc. Still other popular pistol magazines have much smaller aftermarkets than Glocks, or AK’s.
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You got the mold, you got nothing. The tribal knowledge to make that mold work reliably and repeatably… Therein lies the rub.
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Mine were glock 19 compatible.
You’re actually way off. You may have sold $50,000 worth of mags but let’s say profit is 20%…that only put $10,000 against that 50k….in other words it’s a lot worse than that!
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20 % margin seems pretty aggressive.
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