Officially a member of Club Dagger! First impressions, immediately apparent "issues"

So, I finally pulled the trigger (heh) and got me a full-size Dagger with the RMR-cutout, chameleon barrel, rear sight in front of the optic, and 10 PMAGs. All I’ve done is just dry fired it a few times, but so far so good. Looking forward to the next range visit.

Three things that jumped out to me so far are:

  1. Mag Release (too short!)
  2. Rear Grip Bulge (too big?)
  3. Trigger (weird…)

I am actually going to give the stock trigger a chance before I do anything with it. It’s like no trigger I’ve ever had before, but that’s not a bad thing. If I had not already tried a polymer trigger in a pistol (Apex’s poly trigger in my M&P Full Size, which is fantastic), I’d have changed it out posthaste. But I’m going to run this pistol through its paces first, before I make any changes to the trigger.

One thing I am definitely going to change out is the mag release. I just have too far to go to reach the mag release for me to be comfortable leaving it as is. I was looking at the Glock factory extended mag release at Glock Store (SKU 6144) and think I’ll try that first. If extended length alone doesn’t fix this for me, then I’ll start looking for something with a larger horizontal surface area to push on. (Any suggestions?)

Finally, the bulge in the back feels a little weird to me, but I’m not convinced I need to do anything about that, other than shoot it for a while and see how it works. I doubt there’s much I can do about that anyway, right? I doubt it is thick enough for me to do any sanding on to take it down a little. Another pistol I’ve shot that has a similar bulge (the Jericho 941) works great, I got used to it pretty quickly.

Overall, I was surprised at how plasticky it felt when I first handled it (which led me to think that maybe I made a bad decision), but first impressions are easily replaced by subsequent ones.

Comments and suggestions welcome.

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The only change I made was changing out the mag release. The trigger gets better, but is definitely not the best.

Happy to have you abroad! It’ll soon become an addiction for you(hopefully.)

I’d personally avoid Glock Store as much as possible, but that’s up to you. The Vicker’s mag release is slightly shorter than the OEM extended, but has nice texturing and is rounded off. I have one on both my Dagger’s and it releases no issue, and haven’t had any mag drops with them. The OEM Dagger release also feels kinda sharp but it’s due to how much pressure is needed. The geometry on the inside where the spring goes is weird. So either a lighter spring or a different release will fix it. I’d rather change the mag release than lighten the spring up.

For the trigger, just shoot it. People get way too into swapping triggers on guns instead of adapting to them. Feels like an FNS/509 trigger which are really good. I make 100yd shots with mine easily, both red dot and irons.
Outside of a gun having a defective trigger, I believe people should be able to pick up pretty much any gun and do well with it. (Still need to work on my HiPoint skills but I got 1 more hit than my friend’s did. So that was a total of 2…)

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The ‘glock hump’ is much more pronounced on the full size frame than the compact. It doesn’t bother me, but i prefer the grip on the compact. As for the trigger, those are going to very from individual example to example. I own 6, they are similar, the last one i got has IMO an excellent striker trigger. It almost feels like a smooth DAO trigger.
The stock mag release isn’t bad, but is cheap and easily upgraded.

It’s funny how everyone is different. I like the grip and “hump” better than all my other pistols and the mag release doesn’t bother me at all, but the trigger was the first thing I changed. Actually the only thing I changed other than adding the RDS.

Everybody is different for sure. I prefer the full size grip over the compact. I was fine with the stock mag release after I swapped to the 2.5lb spring. Undecided on the trigger, not going to change anything until it has a chance to break in. I just don’t like how it hits the wall and then gets vague. Aftermarket AR triggers have made me a trigger snob I guess! :laughing:
Welcome to the club! I predict you’ll be buying more.
re: dry firing- I understand you should use snap caps for dry firing a Dagger, I assume you are?

don’t know who you’re asking but since I’m here…

Yeah, I got spoiled with my Security 9. It had a very good trigger to start and I upgraded it with a Galloway trigger. It was only marginally better but it is a very good trigger. But it’s an internal hammer fire, not a striker fire. There’s the difference.

I was also used to dryfiring the Ruger as much as I wanted, never an issue. Then when I switched to the Dagger I kept dryfiring as always and then I found out that Glocks aren’t supposed to be dryfired without a snapcap. I got some but I rarely use them. I’ve fired this Dagger a couple thousand times give or take and dryfired twice that at least. No problems yet. But I say to each his own.