Just the results from my fox hole. Full Size Dagger, 124 gr 9mm Fiocchi Italian ammo (mis spelled no doubt) and iron sights, off hand, 25 yds : I got a 1.7 inch group with first ten rounds shot ouf of that pistol. Yesterday, I got 1.4" group. I don’t have a issue with Dagger accuracy.
The much hated trigger as flagged by so many …not sure most can shoot for Schnit but lots of grief about Dagger out of box trigger. The Trigger on my Dagger is just fine. The accuracy of my pistol is not degraded by the factory trigger, my pistol is more than accurate enough.,
Now that said, if I ever feel a trigger enhancement required, I’ll do it but not seeing that on the horizon anytime soon. Triggers and trigger pulls are an individual taste just as size 9 Nike vs Size 9 New Balance running shoes. What fits on triggers is just like running shoes…if it fits, it fits and if not, Change something.
If you know you can shoot and a trigger / trigger pull isn’t right…light a fire under making a change of triggers.
Dagger Trigger…compared to the trigger on my sons Glock 22, is so much better that Glock ought to be offering rebates ! That Glock has sold so many pistols and not addressed its craptacular stock triggers is simply outrageous.
IMO the dagger trigger sucks. Comparing the dagger trigger to a Glock trigger tells you nothing since both are terrible. Compare it to a 1911, now you are getting somewhere. With some spring swaps the dagger is ok, but out of the box it feels like pulling on a spongy 2x4.
Props to the accuracy. I’ve had no issues with my dagger either.
Ultimately it comes down to personal preference. If you love it, love it. If you don’t, fix it. It’s easy enough.
Happy shooting.
Agreed. Which is why you always have the caveat of “it’s not a bad trigger, for a striker fired gun.”
Which it isn’t. It’s not great, it’s not bad. It’s completely usable. You can upgrade it, you don’t have to. It’s like a mil-spec trigger in an AR, exactly the same scenario.
Comparing a single action only hammer fired trigger to a striker fired, double action only trigger is definitely not what I’d call smart. Then you get people complaining about series 70/80 triggers or whatever. Just shoot the gun.
But yes the one Dagger I had with a proper connector in it, is way better than the one with the OEM Glock connector. Not by much I guess, but having that much cleaner wall and break makes all the difference for me. If I ever get an OEM Glock again in the future, I’m putting the Dagger connector in. Hell, probably the whole trigger if it’s a Gen 1-4.
And if it’s shootable I wouldn’t consider it terrible at all. I hated the Hi-Point trigger but after about 50 rounds out of it, I actually don’t mind it. Granted I did some polishing and removed the magazine disconnect as well.
Not messing around with springs though. Glock safeties are designed in a certain way and going super light can defeat many of those. Seen too many improper/not tested trigger installs here as well. You have to know what you are doing. The swap itself is easy, making sure it’s safe is also easy but if you don’t have the tools or knowledge, get someone that does.
Inspection is key too. I found my gun a bit dirty after some shooting and minor work on the gun. And what do I see? My plunger safety was stuck in. Completely disabling that safety feature while I carry appendix. Find the Dagger needs a little more cleaning than an OEM Glock, but that’s alright.
Alright well compare it to a walther pdp. Night and day. Or compare it to a canik with a freedom smith trigger. Or compare it to an xdm, or sig or whatever. My point was, the trigger has a reputation for a reason. Like I said: if you like it, awesome! If not upgrade it. It’s all up to the shooter.
All those other guns are precocked. At least more than the Glock is. I’ve shot most of them before and they’re ok but I don’t shoot them any better. And the Sig 320 also has a reputation, for a reason. Trigger time is what gets you better, not the trigger.
To be fair a Glock is also precocked technically, just not 100% to the rear. There’s still a bit of travel before it fires. So that contributes to the pull on it.
We got to run mine agian last Sunday. The more trigger time the more I’m liking it coming from a 1911 or wheel gun guy. 3 of my friends enjoyed a few mags. Trigger is getting there to my satisfaction. So far not one hiccup either.
Dagger ate every one of a round that made an AK-V hiccup on, granted the AK-V was less than hundred rounds then and I bought the ugliest HPs I could find.
The Dagger is no more or less accurate than the Glock it copies.
Sigh, okay, so, the trigger…it’s mediocre. It’s not as bad as a S&W Sigma or SD, but not as good as a Glock trigger, especially a Gen 5.
I will say the Dagger stock trigger really does benefit from a 25-cent Flitz job; it really does smooth it out nicely. It is not a terrible trigger, it really isn’t.
I will say the Shadow Systems triggers fit natively and they are very, very smooth. Almost more smooth than you want for an EDC.
Good write up. The factory triggers on all my Daggers are just fine. Like GuitarGuy said a few posts up, the more you shoot your Dagger, the better the trigger gets.
My Gen5 trigger felt the same or worse than previous gen Glocks. There’s huge variances in Glock triggers. At worst, it’s the same as a Gen 1-4. At best it’s slightly better. My Dagger happens to feel better than an OEM Glock 34 Gen 5 trigger.
Then go kick in doors at night, ahhhhhhhh, beautiful days!!!