Doesn’t matter Dagger or Glock , the cheer leaders are out there to change triggers in both and swear its got to happen. My stock Dagger trigger is just fine, and ergonomics no problem. Far better than my son’s Glock 22. I got no issues with stock Dagger trigger, if I did, I’d be chasing replacement trigger.
I’m not changing anything but if over time I find anything needing improvement, I’ll not hesitate to replace and enhance the Dagger. Out of the box, my example is fine, far better than a Glock in ergonomics for my hands. My take is : fix only that which needs it but shoot & find out if necessary.
Last < I got the $ to buy Glocks. The dagger grip & angle fits me and makes the leap to a Glock clone Model 19 a far superior option that buy a Glock and suffer trying to make it fit my hands.
Factory Dagger barrel…off hand , old old eyes and did 1.7 inch group off hand at 25 yds last Friday with 124 gr 9mm ammo from Fiocchi. I got no compliants and replacing trigger isn’t resonating to me if I can enjoyably do this good with Dagger Iron sights and the Internet Hated Dagger Trigger. Maybe those hating the trigger need to eat their Wheaties so they can shoot better with stock triggers ??? LOL
Both of mine can easily manage to hit a 10 inch steel plate at 100 yards. Standing. Using random 115gr range ammo.
Seen people complain the trigger is like an M&P as well but it’s not. FN styled trigger.
So unless you get a defective part or something, the stock triggers are fine. Granted I also don’t mind a Hi Point trigger either… But yeah I see a lot of posts where people have swapped something and are having issues with the gun. Try the gun stock first to see if it was a part problem or not. And just because you CAN change stuff, doesn’t mean you should.
I chose the Dagger because of how customizable it is. To each their own. I don’t understand all this complaining, stomping feet and snowflake melt downs because someone else changed a trigger? You do you.
In my experience, most people new to guns and shooting have no idea how a trigger feels, or how a good one should feel and why.
In addition, those who learn all the above, still don’t shoot beyond plinking and have no need for it other than “I may need it down the line.”
Now, I’m not saying you shouldn’t upgrade. I’m saying to maximize your skills before you upgrade your equipment. That will help you make a decision about which upgrades are best for YOU.
My issue is people upgrading and not having the basic skills down. Or deciding to not even try the gun stock, “upgrading” the trigger on a gun that already outshoots their skill level, then has issues with gun after the upgrade and wonders why.
I changed the mag release on mine. Changed the backplate. Stippled it, undercut. Put a comp on one, red dot on the other. I do upgrades too. But I can also shoot the stock gun just as well, and add things that I’ve found could use an improvement for me.
It’s why I like Shadow System’s youtube videos on some customer guns sent in. The whole “customer states” thing you see in the automotive field. They show all the aftermarket crap people put on the gun making the finely tuned machine not work. They then put all the OEM parts back on, put the aftermarket in a bag, box it up and send it back working.
I’m by no means a pro, but I’ve rarely ever had issues over the years using the wide web for research, and learning on my own by just looking at how things fit together.
Aesthetic is fine, but many make their gun unreliable or never test it before swapping things out. Still, it’s their money and life, they can do it if they want., Just won’t ever catch me doing that.
i agree entirely with this statement, i don’t think they know what to compare it to. like buying a new hockey stick but never learning how to handle the puck.
I break in my Glocks, and more recently, 2 Daggers, a comp and micro, then detail disassemble, deep clean, and polish all friction bearing surfaces to a mirror shine. You get all the benefits of an enhanced trigger with OEM reliability.
I hope their website can handle the load, if not, it is going to be just luck. Is like when Grabagun have the .308 for 15 bucks, the site gets overload every time unless you open the site before the rush. I think TOT is at 11:00 ET.
I also opted for polishing instead of spending too much money on an aftermarket trigger that might or might not work in a Dagger. I did very conservative polishing with crocus cloth and a dremel with jeweler’s rouge. Short time and light touch because I was concerned about removing too much metal.
Question: is the steel in Glock style trigger parts the same hardness all the way through? I know that for AR and similar, trigger and hammer are case hardened so you have to be careful not to cut through the hardened steel to softer steel underneath.
I could probably polish my Dagger trigger components more but figure it’s easier to do more than go back and unpolish something after overdoing it. Still, I am very pleased with the result. I got the experience of removing and reinstalling a glock type trigger—something I had not yet done—and did make the trigger smoother without spending more money. The trigger also seems just a tiny bit lighter but that might just be because it’s smoother.
For those watching, the effort expended on polishing the stock Dagger parts is very worthwhile and should be your second step when the desire to change the trigger gets irresistable. The first step is shoot the new Dagger as-is and let it break in some.
NOTE: before changing trigger and bar assembly because you were lured by claims about lighter trigger and shorter take-up, do your own research. Some Glock Gen 3 items work with a Dagger and some do not. Someone posted on PSA forums a very good list of what aftermarket Glock Gen 3 items do and do not work on Daggers. Don’t have the link handy or the poster’s name but wanted ya’ll to be aware of it if you aren’t already.