…and it’s not very good. I’d rate it to be not as responsive as a Glock, but slightly better than a S&W Sigma. The travel is a bit long, and mushy. I polished the metal parts to a mirror finish and it didn’t seem to help much.
So, I am looking at either another ZEV Pro (I have one in another Dagger and it’s awesome) or the Guardian made by GlockTriggers.com; they apparently take a stock Glock OEM trigger, polish it to a high sheen and add some sort of magic.
Is anyone running a Guardian in their personal Dagger and how do they like it? This is going to be an EDC firearm, so I am after something with high reliability.
I’ve never been a “Glock Guy”, these Daggers are my first foray into the Wonderful World of Austrian [knockoff!] Firearms……
I haven’t been particularly Impressed by the Dagger Trigger; but I don’t think it’s absolutely Awful. The “sproinginess” is probably my biggest complaint about it, but takeup and pull-weight are acceptable for a carry.
If a Dagger takes G19 pieces I’ve heard a bunch of good about the Overwatch PolyDAT trigger, plus it’s only like $60. If I do another aftermarket Glock trigger then it’s what I’d likely go with based off its reputation.
The problem with Glocks is they’re never going to have the nicest triggers. I’m talking striker fired pistol triggers BTW. IMO no aftermarket Glock trigger is going to be as nice as say a M&P with an Apex trigger, or say a P10, or Walther PDP, etc. At least not the ones I’ve felt. I’m not saying don’t try improving on a Glocks trigger, just understand that they don’t have the best feeling triggers, but they’re not bad triggers either IMO. Shadow Systems for example have decent triggers and they’re GEN3 Glock based guns like the Dagger. I own a gun with an adjustable LWD trigger and another with a Timney Alpha trigger, but IMO they’re not that much better than a Glock with a stock trigger running a $.25 trigger job and a 3.5 lb connector. I did have a gun that I added a 3.5 lb connector and it caused the striker to drop on reset though so be careful with them. I ended up just putting a stock connector in that gun and it solved that issue.
I also like to sand the trigger safety on a Glock to sit flush with the trigger when compressed. I find it works just fine and functions reliably, and I don’t have to feel the trigger safety protruding from the trigger. I never noticed it until someone mentioned it to me and it was like, “you know that is annoying on this trigger.”
wow… imo…. no. the dagger lower comes with a 3.5lb disconnector and the trigger safety basically just increased slightly by having a long yet very light first stage in the trigger pull then when you hit the wall it’s crisp, nice short resets remember to not let the trigger travel the full distance back home each shot, however the easiest and quickest way to immediately change the trigger feel is just by swapping it with a glock oem trigger from either gen3 or gen4 and either a 26/19 or 17/34 or a polymer80 flat trigger and it will be almost equivalent to some of the best glock trigger jobs. now it honestly already is, with just a little extra initial travel but it comes with the 3.5lb and is for edc so an added precaution that after the initial pull isn’t felt the rest of the magdump from a stendo.
Just to clarify a little better on what I mean when I say mod the Glock trigger safety to sit flush with the trigger:
Here’s a picture of a G20SF with an untouched Glock trigger shoe, and a P80 PF45 with a LWD trigger that I’ve polished the trigger safety to sit flush with the trigger when compressed.
On the trigger with the polished face (filed and sanded) where the trigger safety sits flush with the trigger face you’ll notice that everything is obviously sitting flush when the safety is fully compressed.
To achieve this, with the trigger shoe and bar out the gun, pinch the rear of the trigger safety down until it’s fully compressed, and start filing and sanding it flush and smooth with the face of the trigger.
Obviously if you’re not going to use a Glock trigger shoe on a Dagger then this is irrelevant. Is it the best Glock trigger mod? No, but if you combine it with a $.25 trigger job, a 3.5 lb connecter and maybe a heavier trigger spring in a Glock, and you dry fire it back to back with a stock Glock, then most people are going to prefer the modded trigger setup. If you want to ball out and spend 3 figures on an aftermarket trigger from and # of companies then you can have a nicer trigger as well. With that said I doubt I’ll ever drop 3 figures into a Glock trigger again, as I don’t feel the price matches the improvement over an OEM Glock trigger, and you can improve on the OEM trigger for little money. Again a Glock based trigger is never going to be the best feeling trigger. Your well tuned 1911 trigger is always going to be several levels better than most any striker fired guns trigger, but especially Glocks. I’m more willing to drop more money into say a M&P or a FN 509’s trigger (both of which used a hinged trigger safety like a Dagger) because I feel that there’s a bigger improvement to be had with those pistols. JMO
Since you’re starting with a Dagger that uses basically a Glock trigger with a hanging/hinged safety if you’re wanting to try and improve on it then I would do a polish job on it. (Many YT video’s on how to do a $.25 trigger job on a Glock) If a Dagger comes factory with a 3.5 lb connector then you’re GTG there, but polish it during the trigger job. Some people while go with a heavier trigger spring, but I’ve not noticed much a difference going from a 4.5 lb (I think that’s the OEM Glock spring rate) to a 6 lb spring. Lastly even though the hanging/hinged trigger safety shoe like a Dagger/509/M&P have don’t offend me like they seem to do to a lot of people, I will say I prefer the Glock style trigger setup better, especially with the safety sanded flush with the face. Since you’d need to buy a Glock trigger shoe to achieve this then I would just buy the Johnny Glock enhanced OEM trigger shoe for like $22. It already comes with the safety sanded flushed like I showed at the top of the post, plus it has been tapped for a screw that lets you adjust the pre-travel in the trigger. Johnny Glock is thought of as the lead authority when it comes to Glock triggers, and anything he sells is considered top notch and GTG. Factory OEM Glock Trigger Shoe Upgrade (modified & enhanced) – Johnny Glocks
