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well, i dont think that they have the ability to collect the forms that we get our background checks done on, but i do think that if you are called in for a background check you are on a list. so its just a minute difference. I am glad that with my cwp i dont have to have the call in to verify anymore, as it speeds up the process and it kills the call in wait and traffic.

I also dont think thy have any clue or ability to know who has braces, and how many firearms they have braces on, which is why they’re trying to ban them outright. it makes them feel stupid because they realize how small the difference is if at all, between a pistol braced pistol ar and a sbr ar, and by banning them, they save face somehow/ some what…

Agreed. I remember on YT caught FTA using a smart phone camera to take page after page photos of an FFL’s hard copy records. Busted!

Trust me, the federal government does not have the ability to track every weapon sold in the U.S. Most government agencies have antiquated, out-dated computer systems that can’t even communicate between themselves. The AY TEE EF is as dysfunctional as any other government agency. “Searchable database”? Nope.

Agreed. At least until Musk’s warning of AI surveillance kicks in, versions of which the China is selling to other countries already. So eventually they will force US hands to follow suit, IMO

You know it was never like this in the 80’s. I used to enforce Codes Of Fed Regs on waterways. I wored routinely with FBI, ATF, and Border Patrol. We always were friendly enforcers to industry and especially the public, kindly explaining and helping with compliance. We even had get togethers and range days. It was always the bad guys that were the subject of concern. Now everthing has flipped. So glad all this is after my watch, no wonder so many were pushed to retirement to make way for the new.

My FFL said the ATF called him regarding a pistol he had transferred more than a year earlier as part of a multi gun transaction. The pistol had been recovered from a crime scene and when the ATF checked their database, it showed my FFL had done the transfer. When he retrieved the handwritten form from his file, he compared the serial with the number the ATF provided. They had a keypunch error when they entered his info and had turned a “D” into a “0” which caused the mixup. So they are definitely keeping a database of the multiple gun purchases at least.

You would be shocked at how many stolen/lost weapons show up as “clear” when they are run due to someone entering the incorrect information into NCIC. “Clear” does NOT mean it isn’t stolen, it simply means that whatever information was run is not in the system. The NCIC system relies upon the correct information being placed in initially and the correct information being put in for a query. Human error is the weak link.