Reduce Prevalence of Bump Fire on ALG Trigger?

Yeah, I actually want to reduce the tendency of my ALG AK-V to bump fire. Is there any adjustments that can be made to do this? I love the triggers and have them in all my AKs, but want it a little more predictable in my V. It doesn’t do it every trigger pull and seems to do it more cold than hot. The last may be me just getting more used to it as range sessions go on. I’d say it does it once or twice per 35 round mag.

I can honestly say I have never had that happen with my AK-V…that is if I actually had one.

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It’s a feature, not a bug!

By law i have to say that was a joke.

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I changed my trigger technique to allow for more follow through (holding it longer after firing) and it pretty much eliminated the bump firing. Now it’s just getting muscle memory to do it consistently.

Is there any other fix to this ? Last time out it probably bump fired 4x each mag. Gets the attention of range officers. I hear from the AR forum that @Josiah_PSA is the guy to talk to… if you could PM me that would be great…

Try keeping your trigger finger back when you shoot and not releasing it until you are back on target. With this controlled reset, I didn’t bump fire at all, last range trip, except for the one time I forgot to do it.

Yea I get that but when trying to sight a red dot with a nice slow pull to control muzzle movement it automatically does it. I’m also used to quickly resetting my trigger for follow up shots with my Glocks. I’m going to have to remember to keep hold of the trigger.

New to the AKV platform as mine just arrived Monday and took it to the range immediately. Still being unfamiliar with the trigger, it would never bump fire until I actually tried too. Needless to say, I just installed the ALG trigger and I can let you know how it does. It definitely feels better than the stock trigger, thats for sure.

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I wanted to add my experience here - I have the PSA installed ALG trigger. When I’m standing and firmly shouldering the AK-V I haven’t had any bump fire so far after 140 rounds fired. However, when I had it on a rest, and perhaps not shouldered as firmly, I was slowly squeezing the trigger in order to dial in the sight. Out of about 6 or 7 shot attempts, I had one 3 round burst and one of about 5 rounds. This really startled me as I have never bump fired before. Anyways, it has not happened yet off the rest.

The double or triple firing when lightly pulling the trigger is caused by the disconnector. Theres not enough disconnector and hammer overlap. When you slowly pull back the trigger and fire the shot, the disconnector is supposed to catch the hammer on its return trip, which it does, but now you have the recoil of the rifle moving you, the shooter, and that makes you move your trigger finger a bit and fire another round. To fix it you would need a heavier trigger, or a longer disconnector engagement surface. Nobody wants to replace their nice alg triggers so we will have to increase the engagement surface. If you look at your fire control group in the rifle, you will find the disconnector nestled in the trigger with the single, short hook facing the hammer. What we need to do is remove a bit of material on the BOTTOM of the forward (closer to the hammer) edge of the disconnector where it contacts the valley of the trigger. Be warned, the more material you remove, the longer the trigger reset you will have. Its theoretically possible to remove so much that the trigger won’t reset at all. So, a few strokes with a file should do. Take off just enough material to stop the problem and that’s it. Also, the roughness of your cut doesn’t matter as its only acts as a stop, not a sear surface.
Best of luck.

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Welcome to the forums @Mountain :cowboy_hat_face:

I’ve had my AK-V to the range a few times and never had this happen until today, like a 3 shot burst. It surprised me to say the least but it is also easily controllable with the trigger pull technique. It’s nice knowing it can do it, but controlling it is key.

If i want single shot, i wrap my thumb around the grip. If i want bump fire, i don’t. That extra pressure helps keep control.

Welcome to the PSA community @Unit59 :us:

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I am having the same issue except my magazines fire until completely empty. Fortunately I only load a few rounds at a time when I first purchase a new firearm.
I first took it to the range more than a year ago. I keep a suppressor on it, as I do with many of my other firearms. After a few rounds through the AK-V i had an episode where multiple rounds fired with a single pull. Fortunately there were few rounds left in the magazine. The range officer came over believing I was firing an automatic weapon (not legal on that range). I asked him to watch, and after a few pulls of the trigger it happened again with the remaining rounds rapidly firing. There was plenty of muzzle rise with this. also The range officer agreed the firearm was unsafe and saw nothing wrong with my technique. I have been shooting for 30+ years.

 I sent a message to PSA and they said I needed to work on my trigger control.  I took the AK-V apart and cleaned it well.  The firearm sat for the past year in view of the SBA brace controversy and other life stressors.   I have 10+ other pistol so I took those occasionally to the indoor range.

The ALG trigger is very short reset but I can shoot it fine, holding back the trigger until I am ready to fire the next round.

I brought my AK-V to the range today specifically to test it for safety. I started by loading 1 round into my magazines, then 2 rounds, then 5 rounds, until I developed some confidence that “going automatic” would not happen again. I never loaded more than 5 rounds into any of my magazines. After about 30 rounds without the suppressor I felt confident the problem would not return.

I put the suppressor back on. The problem returned, but not immediately. I asked someone else to shoot the gun, having seen what happened to me and knowing the concerns. All 5 rounds in the magazine fired off on the first pull.

I don’t know if this is related to suppressor use or not, but I like to shoot my guns suppressed and at this point I consider it unsafe.

Welcome to the PSA community :us:
@andynephro

thanks

I still think it’s a trigger control issue. The suppressor is gonna change weight / balance significantly.

The suppressor is also going to add more backpressure which will speed up the cycling.

Squeeze that grip and trigger hard and it wont double. With the ALG trigger, it truly is about trigger control, whether you have been shooting 20 years or 2 days.

The standard PSA trigger is not known to bump fire as easym. You can always switch to it also.

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I didn’t want to mention backpressure as I have no experience with suppressed. 50 years of trigger time here. Heavier up front will likely lead to a little firmer pressure on the ball of one’s palm which will tend to push one’s finger a little higher on the trigger, less leverage.