Shot Show 2025 Concept Gun Poll

Just voted, although the only two things to make me excited were the 338 Jakl and the X9.

I’d buy the 338 Jakl right NOW, if I could- the second I saw the ICAR vid and realized it was derived from the Six8 magwell, I had a multi-hour conversation with my buddies in our group chat about how It’d be possible to build a LWRC IC-PDW in 338 ARC… When I saw the Mixtape, I was ecstatic.

But a Jakl would be even better, in basically every way- @sean.psa even if y’all dont release it as a full gun, PLEASE release a Jakl 2.0 lower with the Six8 magwell. I can build it myself if I have to, and it would also allow people to build whatever 338 Arc, 6 Arc, 6.8 SPC, 6.5 Grendel, 22 Arc, or 338 Razorback. According to a buddy on SnipersHide, the 30 round Six8 mags will hold and feed 33 rounds of 6mm MAX, too.

Ok, so we need a 6mm ARC AR upper for real. Bought a Howa bolt action in 6 ARC and the cartridge is amazingly accurate. Only thing is all the AR stuff costs a pretty sum. Ammo too. Would just be a barrel and a 6.5 Grendal bolt I think. Otherwise I like the Rem 700 action idea. Chambered in some serious long range cartriges like the PRC family. My preference would be 7mm PRC. Have pruchased 9 guns from PSA and will be adding the X5.7 when possible and probably an AK cause I need an American AK too. Keep innovating though.

The Vuk is the top of my want list. The latest version looks great but cut the unnecessary gimmicks like the magwell dimples, X & Y and “dust cover” button if not necessary. If y’all can mill dimples just mill more area to reduce as much weight as possible. The updated sights look better. As for the charging handle placement, either way is fine with me but if this is going to be the “modern AK” then make it modern and go with the newer Jakl 2.0 ambi charging handle placement.

The Vuk 9mm looks great and is another top pic for me.

The Jakl 2.0 looks great also. I like the new purpose built lower. The mention of it being lighter weight is the best thing I heard.

The Jakl 9mm is a must also. It looks great.

The Micro 380 Dagger is another i want. It ought to be a nice shooter.

The X9 looks good as is.

The Emerge 700 style bolt gun is a honorable mention. It does look good.

The X, Y and the dimple would probably let them use the same blank as the AK lineup with just a profile rout or stamp and fold. Just a thought.

The 380 micro opens the door to a softer shooting compact. Could be a good hit with female shooters.

The “Vegans of the Pistol World”.

I would love it if PSA entered the world of suppression. Start making decent affordable suppressors. I feel like all of the other suppressors on the market are artificially inflated due to the mystique and stigma around suppressors. They honestly shouldn’t cost more than a few hundred dollars. There’s no magic involved in manufacturing them, and materials are very common.

PSA owns Advanced Armament :grin: @2A-FLDad

https://advanced-armament.com/

welcome to the forums. personally i like both, but they werent on the top of my list.

welcome to the forums hope you h ang around !

I still feel like $450 for a rimfire can is a bit pricey for a metal tube with some machined parts. The prices in the suppressor world are completely arbitrary and fantastical. I wouldn’t have guessed that they had a stake in that market because PSA’s motto is to arm the average Joe at an affordable price.

There’s a lot of that in the gun world in general. Ever read the story about what Gaston Glock wanted to charge for his original design? Companies get away with it because people continue to pony up.

But I agree with you on the cans.

I agree but the market is dictated by the consumer and what we are willing to pay.
Now you could build your own with common parts but I in no way condone doing so :wink:

@2A-FLDad

I used to do this when I played paintball 30 years ago. I built them so quiet that all you heard was the springs inside the guns :slight_smile:

there is some markup in the suppressor world, but not as much as you might think- at least for most brands…

Surefire and Knight’s Armament are overpriced AF because of the mil contracts, and you’ve got a select few Mfg’s like Q who just blatantly overcharge for absolute JUNK because because they can get away with it by relying on hypebeast marketing and faux buzz generated by “influencers” (AKA shills), with a little bit of previous brand recognition thrown in (seriously tho… Avoid Q or anything else affiliated by Kevin Brittingham like the plague; on top of him being an insufferable, creepy, sleazy scumbag, none of his products are innovative, they’re all marked up by at least 100%, their QC sucks, their designs are just plain BAD, and you can build a better version of anything he sells for half the money)

Most cans, however, aren’t actually marked up as much as you might think… While the cost of the raw materials might not be high, actually PRODUCING them (and owning/running a suppressor company in general) IS high- mainly because of NFA b.s. and related shenanigans.

For starters, while the raw materials don’t usually cost all that much (at least for the more conventional, non-3d printed cans and the ones not made of exotic alloys), the EQUIPMENT required to make them IS pricey… And that cost has to be passed along to the consumer.

You also have to consider that simply being NFA items keeps the suppressor market much, MUUUUCH smaller than just regular guns- between a lot of people flat-out mistakenly believing “silencers are illegal”, people that don’t want to “go on a list”, those that can’t afford the $200 tax stamp or don’t understand the paperwork, or the people that simply don’t wan’t to bother with the (until recently) year-ish of waiting after paying? The market is so small that manufacturers HAVE to charge more per unit in order to run a successful business, since they have a smaller quantity of product across which to distribute costs. Think “economy of scale”, but in reverse… So those expensive multi-axis cnc machines and laser welders? Instead of being able to pump out enough product to add 5 cents to the price of each to recoup the cost of the equipment, they’re having to add $100 to each.

The whole “cost to do business” thing is also rough when it comes to silencer companies, even moreso than “regular” gun companies. They can’t just have a regular FFL, they have to maintain and pay for a SOT, and there are a LOT of very stringent rules they have to follow regarding marking, storing, and paperwork, all of which require extra employees.

Fair rebuttal and excellent points.

Basically: even more reasons we need to fire the NFA into the sun.

Also, thanks for saying what you did about Brittingham and Q. All 100000% factual.

Irrelevant question? Is psa svd shelved?

i dont think a psa svd was ever on deck to begin with.

It was like 5 years ago

ahh… well if it was then, its not now. from what ive been told, when asked, its not something theyre looking at or planning to do right now. im not saying it wouldnt be possible in the future, but i just dont think they will ever do it. I’d love to see it done though, especially in a few different calibers, like 308, 338, 6.5 c and more.
oh well