Hello everyone,
Simple question I believe. I have this laying around and want to know if I can use this for a pistol build?
What needs to be swapped to be legal and function properly?
Should I not bother and just use it for a 16" or longer rifle build?
Many thanks for ya’lls expertise!
https://palmettostatearmory.com/palmetto-state-armory-magpul-moe-lower-build-kit-black-598.html
If you use a brace instead of the stock then yes, you can use it as a pistol. I recommend the SBA3 brace which is compatible with the buffer tube.
Also - essentially NO forward grips or hand-stops now, and avoid folding/popup iron sights.
Don’t even test-fit that stock in the kit to the pistol. Give/sell it to a friend or something.
Seriously.
to be legal where? in most states it’s as easy as they said… if you’re in CA you need a ca compliance grip and at least 16”
https://palmettostatearmory.com/strike-industries-megafin-featureless-grip-black-si-ar-mfg.html
… and 10rnd magazines for california
Just move…thats what im trying to do lmao
Thanks. I wanted that brace but it’s out of stock. Luckily its available in many build kits so I purchased a complete pistol build kit with a Sba3 included. I thought I needed to change springs as well but thinking about it I believe that was info for people builing a 9mm or other non 5.56 round.
No pop up sights are allowed? I just purchased a S&W 15-22 pistol WITH pop up sights from a local store/FFL. Is that ok, or should I remove them?
Thats actually what launched this build, I want a matching 5.56 to go with the S&W 15-22. I seen a smoking deal on the 15-22 and snagged it instantly.
I left that communist state a few months ago. Thats why I’m a refugee on California lol. I recommend you do the same.
Also apologies to all. Im replying to each of your posts and its not working. Im new to the site and on a phone but I’m not new to forums. Not sure why its not showing each persons post as I reply?
Sorry, thinking about it now, my name would be confusing to others. Its supposed to suggest I’m a former resident of California that has fled the state.
Regardless of what state I’m in I should have listed it especially since im asking a compliance question as each state varies. So I’m in Nebraska “The good life”. Loving every second of it here.
California is hands down the best state in the Nation. Too bad politicians ruined it and every soul from every other state has flooded the state, not to mention other countries as well. Everybody really is fleeing that place at a record pace. Californians are sick of everyone moving there and ruining it, SO now its our turn to invade everyone elses state. Lmao
No changes to the brace rule has been finalized. Oh, and ignorance is bliss.
No folding/iron sights? For compliance reasons when building a pistol? I’ve never heard of this.
I believe how your actual lower was listed when purchased will determine your outcome. If assigned ‘Rifle’ it must be used as such according to the ‘Rules’. If your FFL had the proper brain cells kicking they registered it as ‘Other’ which allows pistol build. Will anyone ever go through that paperwork to prove you illegal? If they want you bad enough it’s an in, just saying.
Thanks for the info. Definitely adds a layer of complexity to an already bullshit rule.
It’s just Parts. If he can receive it at all, it will go directly to his house. As I said - sell/give/throw-away that stock immediately - if it never goes on the PISTOL he’s building, it’s never a violation.
Parts is Parts.
Choose your Brace. Order it. Put it on your Pistol. Take it to the range and punch holes in paper with it.
Be Happy.
This is what he was asking about:
Take away the stock, it is absolutely no different than the SBA3 Brace Build kit.
However, I certainly HOPE he doesn’t just take the word of any single person as absolute Gospel.
the Hawk is speakin the truth on this one
dude everyone was absolutely spot on… you can get a lower with any stock on an incomplete build and the FFL can do it as other, they did all mine as other, specifically asked… didn’t matter what stock or brace… other…. only it’s final configuration matters… now an entire fully built rifle going through the ffl is going to be restricted to unconstitutional laws that as an American should be ignored…
edit: ohh and tact14 with sba brace… other
Again, thanks to all.
Cory; I read your reply before you deleted it. I absolutely agree with everything you said. I know nobody is a lawyer and I take what I get here as a guidline to research on. I dont want to be in court saying “some dude on a forum said it was legal”
All: I knew the brace needed to be changed before posting but wanted to keep the post blank and fresh to start from the beginning and not add confusion for what I was asking. For all I know some other small dumb thing could have made a legal difference. I know ya’ll know your stuff and wouldnt lead me in the wrong direction. I was under the impression the buffer spring needed to be changed on a pistol. But looking back I bet I read that information regarding a pistol that was something other than 5.56 caliber.
I get long winded, but this is what started it all and what started the “snowball effect” that started this thread…
Moved to Nebraska and was finally a “free” American. Family decisions found me buying a Black Rain Ordnance “AR style” 9mm rifle length with left hand side cocker in “Distressed White” First “AR” in my life. Seemed perfect for me, wife and kids to all enjoy at the range.
Wife bought a purple camouflage Bird Dog Arms AR15 a few days later.
I needed to get her mags and found this deal.
If I bought 10 mags I’d be in for 129.99 anyways. So basically I paid $30 for that parts kit. I figured I’d paint the stock and grip white to install on the white Black Rain 9mm rifle and have extra AR15 springs for spares.
Same day she bought the purple camo AR I seen this and thought it looked awesome on the rack in the store. I asked to see it and noticed it was a .22, I said nevermind and went to give it back to the salesman. But before I handed it back I checked the tag out of curiosity and it was at a smoking deal of $375.00. I instantly said “ring it up”. Didnt really want it but I wont pass up a deal like that.
Later I still wanted that S&W 15-22 style in a “real” 5.56 caliber and figured I’d just use that lower parts kit and order an upper to go with it. Then I’d have matching AR in a .22 and a 5.56, so I asked the question that started this thread.
This is what changed those plans. That SBA3 stock was not available by itself and can only be ordered in a kit. So why buy a lower pistol lower kit and the upper when I can just get this below!
So problem SOLVED lmao…
Now I just need a stripped lower and I’ll still keep that original lower parts kit with the rifle stock in the box for a later rifle build.
I keep saving money by not swapping parts in kits around. Keeping it simplified and giving me more excuses to “save” more money by buying MORE stuff hahaha.
So I guess a 3 pack of stripped lowers is next lmao. Then I’ll need another rifle upper to go with the original lower kit and the 2nd stripped lower and another complete kit for that 3rd lower that will be left over.
All that’s left is to learn how to do this because I know diddly squat about AR-15s.
