This “failure” happened. After about 100 rounds this happened a few rounds into a fresh mag. The slide locked back but a round was about 25 percent forward out of the mag? Why would the slide come back and lock open? Even if I made the mistake of pushing up on the slide lock during firing causing it to lock open, what would have casued that round to be moved forward?
They may be skeered. Early in the Daggger production run they were using red loctite and even the guys @ the Greenville store damaged a couple slides trying to rpl the sights on them. Hence I bought the sight pusher for the Rock, they didn’t want to do it for me. The Rock didn’t have red loctite but it had some kind of “goo” residue when I changed them.
Could be loads of reasons, is this a OEM Glock magazine? Is the magazine new, used or extremely used and possible spring/follower issue? Has this magazine been dropped loaded/unloaded freely from the firearm onto hard surfaces, if so, check the feed lips and metal/plastic around the lips.
could be a pmag issue but in the first few mags of rounds that I fired I had a jam with a lead RN where it seemed to get jammed into the feed ramp. When I investigated further I found a rough milled surface so I polished it and it hasn’t happened again. But, my slide hadn’t locked back. It might be one of those things where the pistol and mag both need to be broken in a bit more.
Agreed. I’ve read several stories of the abundance of Loctite on this forum. I think PSA had a corrective action to just discontinue using any Loctite on the front sights. Or possibly a money saving decision and it also just speeds up the assembly process in general. It don’t bother me, I’d rather them come loose compared to not being able to get them off.
Me as well. I used one Glock mag and one Pmag that day. It never happend with the glock mag. But in all fairness it never happened a second time with the Pmag either.
Fairly new Pmag. Its had maybe a 150 or so rounds thru it previously. Never dropped or anything like that.
That’s what I’m going to chalk it up as. Afterwards it was fine even when I started more rapid fire drills, double taps, etc. Of course we prefer everything to run flawlessly, but that’s the most important thing about the first shake down is to work out any quirks and wear stuff in. This wasn’t actually a “jam” just odd that the slide locked back.
idk… i definitely wouldn’t want my sights to come loose, mine just never have and i shoot often so i just had a hard time believing you had so many concurrent issues.
Well I dont want them coming off but I certainly dont want stripped screws or rounded off heads on the screw from too much Loctite when I try to take them off.
But both front sights on two Daggers absolutely came loose.
That’s crazy. I ordered a new Dagger S and I’m starting to try and get into the Dagger craz, but if I start having sights and the trigger pin coming loose, I might be done after my first one. With that said red Loctite on a gun is kind of crazy. (Especial on a low profile, Glock based front sight screw) Even on things like AR gas block screws, which take a lot of heat, and handguard screws, etc I don’t go beyond blue Loctite. Red locking compound isn’t quite permanent seal, but it’s getting up there. It’s a strong holding locking compound.
Absolutely dont let that deter you from getting into Daggers. Mine perform great. I will most likely get another.
In the past some people couldn’t even remove the front sight without damaging them. I think PSA has made changes to prevent that. I have not heard of anyone else having loose sights. So far I’m the only one. It’s a miniscule issue to me.
Is it possible that you bumped the slide release, that’s what caused the lock slide. However, the slide was in process of coming forward when that happened, and if it even ever so slightly touched the next round, it could tap it forward that far. I don’t have a gun handy to see if that’s possible, but logically, it makes sense to me.
Alternatively, I wonder if that round could slip forward that far under the force of recoil. IE when the slide hits the rear of its travel with force, I could maybe see that tap causing the next round to slide forward like that.
You could test for that by loading the magazine with the same number of rounds it was in it when this happened, and then tap it on something solid with the point of the round facing down, and see if the round wants to pop out.
I checked that out and it doesn’t look like it’s possible
I didnt test that, but I think it’s possible.
I absolutely agree, a few FTF or FTE in the first few hundred rounds out of any gun regardless of price or quality is not a deal breaker. A good break in is required before I trust my life with it.
That was it’s first shoot. I took it apart and oiled it before the first use.
You shouldn’t have deleted your other comment. The Peanut Butter comment was funny. You Sir just named this Dagger. I will call her “Peanut” since it’s a compact and because it does resemble Peanut Butter
I tightened it up best I could with my fingers and force fed the last transparent 30 round mag. I saved one 15 round mag to get back to the truck and drive home.
So far 380 rounds on day one at the indoor range and 191 rounds on day two just mag dumping. 571 rounds total. Now she needs a cleaning and tighten everything up properly. Besides everything with threads coming loose. Peanut absolutely eats and eats.
I trust her with my life. I dont consider some things coming loose after hundreds of rounds an issue when I need to dump a mag or less into a bad guy.
Yep, had the same problems with failure to feed on the 27 round mags as well as the 27 round mags falling out after the first two or three rounds fired. Also had the front sight came loose as well. I sent the pistol back to PSA for repair. Came back three weeks later fixed. I dumped PSA 27 round mags and went with Glock mags. No problems with feed. I have noticed that the Dagger kit, now on sale at PSA, no longer includes the 27 round mags. Interestly, I haven’t been offered an exchange of my PSA 27 round mags for the 15 round mags.
