Failure to feed Gen 3 w/ PMAG

Rookie here. I just assembled a Gen 3 PSA AR-10. I fired the first 20 rounds through it from a brand new 10 round PMAG. Twice I had a failure to feed. At the time it had zero lube.

Is this a rifle issue, a mag issue or an operator issue? :blush: Ideas for fixing it?

Lube wouldn’t hurt. 20+ round capacity mags wouldn’t hurt either because freedom.

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Lol. Well brother I wish it was that easy. Here in California 10 round is best I can do. Wouldn’t want to get caught with a higher capacity mag and lose my CCW.

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I figured. I was just messing with you. I live in a freedom state and run 25 and 10 round P mags and 20 round hex mags with no problems in a DPMS 10 and haven’t heard of anybody having troubles with P mags in a PSA or any make.

What ammo were you running? Giving it a good cleaning and light oiling couldn’t hurt anything. I’m assuming it is a complete upper, what do you have for a lower?

It’s all PSA. I assembled the lower but bought the upper already assembled. The ammo was factory but not sure what brand at the moment. Maybe Federal in a white box?

That’s pretty reliable ammo, what exact lower/kit?

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-pa10-moe-ept-lower-build-kit-black1.html

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-gen3-pa10-stripped-lower-receiver.html

Did you clean it before you shot it? I ask because it’s new and new parts are coated with factory slim, so it’s a good idea to clean new equipment.

I didn’t clean it. I figured it should work right out of the box. I didn’t notice it having significant grease on it or anything. So now I lubricated the bolt carrier and am going to try again in the next couple days.

Alright…here is the solution:

First, lube it up. Ar’s are meant to be wet.

Second, welcome to the world of 10rd pmag issues. The solution is 10 min and sandpaper. For some reason, when magpul designed the 10 they put a bump on the back of the mag. This bump interferes with a variety of ar10 lowers. They dont do it on the 15, 20, or 25 rd. So you need to sand the bump off.

Sand here:

Until it looks like this:

The bump makes the mag seat at an angle, with the back down and you get the bolt jumping over the rounds instead of stripping them.

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Wow. Okay there is a tiny bump or “ledge” there. I will try that ! Seems like a cheap fix. : )

Thanks GuitarGuy !

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@chrishajduk welcome. Report back if that works.

Will do ! Gonna be a few days.

IMHO, don’t get caught up in the PMAG craze. The HexMags work great in my PSA Gen 3 AR-10 (308) and they are a little cheaper. The 10 round mags look the same as the ‘standard’ 25round mags with a limiter in them. Not sure if you can get away with that in Californistan though.

“All limited capacity magazines feature the True Riser system pioneered by SENTRY. You get a standard size magazine body that has the internals of a shorter magazine so it will look natural in your rifle and fit in all of your gear appropriately”

MidwayUSA Hexmag

Hmph. Learn something new everyday. I never had an issue and never did any sanding, but my “bump” that I think you’re referring to is pretty non existent on mine. 10 and 25 for comparison.


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Slowly load the mag in the magwell and see if it tilts when you get it to lock in. look at where the ledge or bump meets the lower to see if it is making contact.

Edit: your mags are black, mine are sand, which I dont think Magpul makes anymore.

Thanks !

Ok. I’m hoping the sanding fixes it. Worth a shot. I had 2 failures to feed out of 20 rounds.

No bumps on my MagPul 10’s or 25’s, either.

The 25s didn’t have them. They have a ledge, but it is well below the bottom of the magwell.