If you have one of these pistols, then you know.
Has anyone tried to replace the stock sights with Trijicon iron sights?
Brother…until the accuracy issue of the Stock Barrel is handled…High Dollar Sights are nearly pointless.
These are selling well at one of my favorite shops and almost everyone is suffering the misery of an inferior barrels inaccuracy.
I like mine OK… but it will Never be an FN Browning Hi Power. I’m not going to toss tons of money at it and still end up with a Girsan at the end of the day. The barrel swap is my High Water mark.
I can almost kick my own Asprine for not buying the Springfield Armory example now.
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Sounds like the Girsan needs some work – maybe a version 2?
Anyone have druthers on the Springfield SA-35? The review from Guns & Ammo magazine was pretty high on it, but it’s nice to get other opinions. I’d hate to pour good money after something that might not measure up.
this is the first time ive heard of a girsan with accuracy issues with their barrels. I hope its limited to their hi-power version as their 1911s ive been told are pretty solid. I dont have either yet, and well i dont know if i will make the plunge anytime soon on one, but their price points have made them very attractive to me for a cheap 1911 or hipower knock off
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My favorite local Gunsmith is a Huge as all Hell 1911 and Browning Hi Power fan and dare I say afficianado .
He told me two weeks ago that he stepped out of his Gun Snob box and purchased the SA-35 and is thrilled to death with it.
I recall a couple of You Tube videos throwing shade on Finish issues … two looking like something was spilled on them and messed up the Slide finish. This is not what you expect from Springfield Armory…but at least its not a rampant problem.
I realize the Girsan and to a lessor degree the SA are Never going to be FN Brownings…you have to accept that as part of the bargain. Throwing more money at a lower teir product can get ridiculous at some point.
Momma always said" Buy the Best, you’ll be less likely to be disappointed ".
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My people are opting for the Browning Hi Power Barrel for sale at Brownell’s for $157.49…another poster here said it cured his Girsan shortcomings most Ricky Tick
The unit from Brownell’s, unlike BH Spring Solutions is a straight up Drop In.
I own two FN Brownings…one from early 1940 with the Tangent Sights and had Nazi Proofmarks and Waffenampts added. Later war variants the quality dropped off as the war turned against Nazi Germany. The other is a 70’s variant and farely vanilla.
I have an Israeli Kareen that is basically a kit bashing of FN and FEG parts…used for Israeli Law Enforcement and Government Agencies.
The last. The Girsan purchased 2 months ago…so far it’s OK… .removing the Magazine Disconnect helped with an already Gritty Trigger…but thats never been a great thing on any Browning Hi Power, Clone or otherwise.
actually i had the oppertunity to shoot both the SA and the FN at last years PSA Gathering. THey both performed wonderfully, but i preferred the SA pistol over the FN. It just felt like a better shooter than the FN. More like my original browning Hi Power that i have that was made in the 80s.
Nobody can dispute any not being solid…they just seem to drop ball on the barrels of some of the MCP35’s
I own 3 Girsans and my only other complaint is on the Beretta 92 Clone. The Barrel Block used make swapping in a real Beretta barrel and barrel block impossible. So interchangeability is lost.
My cluster of Girsan pistols. I trust them to do the job.
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I like the look of them very nice sir. that sucks though about interchangeability being lost though. that would have made them really awesome in my book.
Here’s a review of the Springfield SA-35 from Recoil Web:
https://www.recoilweb.com/review-springfield-armory-sa-35-the-modern-browning-hi-power-171049.html
Part-way down the article they talk briefly about the trigger. The whole article was pretty upbeat about the pistol and even mentioned they think that Springfield isn’t done working on it.
Right now, I don’t really think I’ll get any Hi-Power. Maybe after finishing shopping for a bunch of other things!
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Its a real pity. The Lugs on the Barrel Block and the Cuts for it on the Slide are milled on entirely different angles
There is No question in my mind that the Girsan Beretta Clone’s Barrel is of inferior quality to the M9 or 92FS…I doubt it even touches the standards of the vastly inferior barrels used in the European 92S which isn’t even Chrome Lined.
I have Spare Beretta 92FS Barrels and Slides from swapping real GI parts on to M9’s and M9A1’s in the collection , so not being able to use them on the Girsan Regard was a big let down.
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thats awesome because i did the exact same thing with my commercial m9. went and bought all the m9 military rebuild parts when they were for sale a few years ago, so now my m9 has the parts with the proper cage codes on the parts and even has an FN barrel all from the GI parts so it is pretty much as much a true M9 as it can be from the US Government now.
thats good to know. It does make me want to wait a bit longer before i jump into the modern Hi-power clone game though. Besides, i have an original browning one so im ok for now with them.
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I confirmed with Trijicon today that their Bright & Tough iron sights for the Browning Hi-Power do NOT fit the Girsan MCP35. The cuts for the sights appear to be proprietary and Trijicon did not recommend installation, even by a gunsmith.
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This is another example of trying to save money , sometimes costs you money.
I bought mine with No real hopes or needs to alter it or toss additional money at it.
The goal was Remove the Magazine Disconnect and maybe use a different set of grips that were already in the Toy Box and call it a day.
BTW… excellent research work with Trijicon.
I only replaced the barrel because the gun was unsafe with the OEM barrel. I put Hogue G10 grips on it, removed the magazine disconnect, and I’m going to swap out the stock recoil spring with a 22-lb. from Wolff.
Mine is a truck gun, so it’s beaten up, scratched, and probably dirty at this point. I’m getting a CZ75B this year for EDC, anyway.
I’m 100% with you on the Barrel Swap , your previous info on that subject has aided 3 others locally and is greatly appreciated. I may even have to go that route myself.
I like the Cz75 family a sheet ton…hard to beat on so many levels.
For a Truck Gun…the Cz75B might be a tad large. I like the NATO approved P01 that has the Military Stock Code ( NSN ) on the Right Side of the Receiver.
My Cz75B variant is the Cold War Commerative with the Soviet Red Star and
Russian script. I also have the Original Cz75 and the Intermediate…the Intermediate was a hodge podge of Cz Parts from the transition of the 75 to the 75B… it also made the leap from Czechoslovakia to the Czech Republic.
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That Intermediate is an heirloom piece.
PFunk…if you had seen my Intermediate when I first got it , you would have thought otherwise.
Mine was a fricking basketcase . Somebody took a piece that had been battered , beaten and bruised and Spray Painted it a Light Gray.
My shop friends had it listed for $250.00 not knowing what they were dealing with. I made an Out the Door offer of $200 and they still thought I was nuts buying it.
I pride myself at times as a Gun Patron Saint of Lost Causes. I like a challenge.
I ordered replacement parts and got all the Paint off…both internal and external. I toyed with the idea of refinishing it back to as close to OEM Spec as possible, then fell for the Polished look.
My total investment is about $350…with my Labor being Free.
The Before Pics
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Holy crap, dude. You could make a small fortune as a restorer.
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Thanks.
That 1st Pic almost makes it look like it was a Toy , as the paint was so thick.
Aircraft Paint Stripper and a Warm Sunny Day peeled a lot of the goop off.