Anyone own a Girsan?

I have a couple Girsan Regard MC’s and I gotta say…they are fine clone specimens! The Turkish really build some nice guns!

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Always wondered how those are. Very attractive…

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I’ve heard they make good 1911s too at very affordable prices.

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I have the mc1911sc, (the officer size model w/the optic cut slide & window in the grip) and really like it.
Couple years back I had been eyeballing it for a few months then saw one on sale for like $525 so I had to pull the trigger at that price, and haven’t regretted it one bit.

Great gun for the dough. It’s super light for a 1911, only 24oz, accurate and (fingers X’d) haven’t had a malfunction in the nearly 3yrs I’ve had it. It’s a comfortable carry piece, I carry it all throughout the colder months, it’s still a bit big for shorts and a t-shirt.

The only thing I don’t really like or it really needs is that grip window. I’m not a huge fan of g-10 grips to begin with and the mags w/ the window in them are like 50 bucks so I just got a hogue wraparound and suits me just fine.

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I’ve thought about getting one, because Beretta doesn’t make a bronze 92. At least not all the same shade of bronze. :joy: They have the “peanut butter” M9, but I’m not sure if I like it enough to pay that price.

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Not exactly what your lookin for but still pretty cool. The girsan burnt broze still looks better.

I really like the 92X with the silver finish, but GEEZ they’re expensive. And I’m not a competitive shooter, so a lot of that gun would go to waste I’m afraid.

Yea their rediculous

I own one of their Hi-Power clones.

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I handled the MC1911 S in a local store and was pretty impressed for the price. Would definitely like to put some rounds through one

The 1911, Beretta 92 clone and the Hi-Power clone are all outstanding. They aren’t going to win any beauty contests for cosmetic appeal but they run great out of the box. The triggers are pretty good and overall reliability is unmatched by far more expensive pistols.

Good value for the money. The only thing you don’t get is bragging rights for having a real Colt, Beretta, or one of the classic or newer Hi Power’s from FN or Springfield. Bragging rights and five bucks will get you a latte at Starbucks. :slight_smile: I give Girsan two thumbs up.

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Thus far, I have not been impressed by my MCP35 and it may be that the one I have is a factory goof. Either the accuracy is just that bad or it’s me trying to get accustomed to an SAO hammer fired pistol. At 7 meters, my groups are nowhere near where the sights say they should be, and they’re about 6-inches in span to my Glock’s 2. I can reliably and consistently put down good groups with every pistol I own but this one. I’ve got 500 rounds through it and I’m just not happy with having purchased it.

I realize the design is old and intended to be a military sidearm, but I don’t have this issue with my buddy’s CZ75, which makes me wish I’d bought one of those instead.

I’ve got a barrel from Brownells coming this week and if it changes things, then I’ll probably keep it because I just love the design of the Hi-Power.

Hey, PSA! Why haven’t you guys built one of these? We have the AK, the 1911, and now a Glock. Why not a PSA-branded all-metal hammer-fired SA/DA pistol like a HP, or the Beretta?

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I own 3 different Girsans. I started out with the 9mm Beretta Clone aka the REGARD MC.

Let me preface that I’ve been owning Beretta 92 Series going back to 1987 . My collection starts with the European 92S and goes through the M9A3 and points in between.

The REGARD MC is an respectable copy …but not as refined as a Taurus. I’m not wild about the the fingers grooves in frame. I also do not care for a chincy hammer.

The Grips are a must replace item.

My biggest complaint is the Girsan will not allow a swapping of its Barrel and Block with a real Beretta.

My conclussion , if you can only afford One pistol that looks like a Beretta 92 at the Girsans price point? Save up a little longer and buy the genuine article.

Next. The Girsan MC 1911S… again a respectable copy but still a bit Price Point crude here and there.

Reliability I’d call adequate. Accuracy acceptable for what it costs

The Accessory Rail does create the Vibe of a MARSOC Colt M45A1… too bad the Grips don’t. You’ll see mine have been replaced.

Conclusion…take a Pass and buy a Tisas M1911A1 WG if a Copy is all the budget will allow?

NEXT. . GIRSAN MC P35 9MM.

Pro’s They are affordable. They are actually built to heavier standards in some areas per BH Springs Solutions testing.

They use 15 Round MecGar Magazines Vs the OEM 13 Rounders.

The Commander Style Hammer was Re-Engineered to prevent Hammer Bite. I appluad the effort on that.

Con’s. Accuracy and Sights questionable

Magazine Disconnect has to go for the same reasons as any other Hi Power or Copy’s does…gritty trigger and Magazines that have to be pulled out. A crappy French requirement that should have ended before it started.

Grips…another Item that needs replacing . I just haven’t gotten around to it on mine yet.

The MC P35 has no Stippling on the front or back of the Grip Frame…so good grips need to make up the difference.

I also prefer an extended Slide Stop , which I have acted on.

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The Brownells barrel has made a difference in the accuracy, but I’m still ordering the fix kit from B&H Spring Solutions

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My buddy is about to lose his mind over this issue.

Did you have Any fitment challenges with the Brownell’s replacement barrel?

I know Semi-Fit and Match Grade are certainly going to need some smithing to install.

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Dude, I am so sorry this is so late.

The Brownells barrel fits the MCP35 natively with no fitment or adjustments necessary.

A word of caution, the nitride coating on the barrel makes the first mating of the barrel to the slide extremely tight; he will need to push the barrel down into the locking lugs pretty hard to get it to lock up. However, after cycling the slide a few times, the lock up is positive and reduces some of the “G.I. wiggle” so common in the design.

Accuracy is improved. I’m still evaluating which loads are best. I seem to get the best results from 147-gr. loads for the moment. 115-gr. performs the worst, I’ve noticed.

Tell your buddy to order the barrel with the peace of mind that it will fit and it will improve the performance of the firearm. So sorry it took so long to respond,

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No Worries Mr. PFunk.

My buddy works in a Gun Store and is On Shift currently , so Tomorrow is a good day to pass on this Confirming Vote of Confidence.

Sadly he’s in one of those shops where they all suffer from Gun Burn Out and won’t research a damn thing. Lots of word of mouth Intel .

I’d read simular elsewhere but wanted to hear it or read it here from someone I’d grown to trust. Thanks for being exactly that.

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Range report for the Girsan MCP35 with the aftermarket barrel by Brownells’.

This is at 15m because that is the max distance I train at. Each of the larger targets had 10 rounds fired at them with stock sights. I can confirm that if anyone is experiencing problems with the barrel and accuracy, the Brownells 1:10 twist replacement makes this pistol really turn the corner.

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Thank You Sir!!
I’ll eagerly pass this along on Monday.

My P35 still hasn’t been played with enough to come down hard on it’s accuracy either way.

I bought this thing as a hedge to keep rounds out of Real Hi Powers and the Canadian Inglis I own.

My friend bought his cuz he’s a gun junky, like I’m not? ( :joy:). He’s bummed beyond belief.

His second step was to put an Argentinian FM Detective’s model slide and barrel on the Girsan frame. The combo works in the Go Bang reliability sense…but that variant also has an accuracy issue, so it’s a wash.

Mark Allen at BH Spring Solutions has a cure for everything… but Your route makes the most Cost Effective sense bar none.

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Accuracy among handguns is mostly about the Indian, not the arrow. It’s more about how one gun or another fits your hand, your grip, and of course familiarity with the gun.

Using the Beretta 92 as an example:

Put a Beretta 92, a Taurus PT, and a Girsan Regard in a Ransom Rest and run the exact same ammo thru each. The groups at 25 yards will be nearly identical.

Now… I like the Beretta 92 best of all three and there are qualitative differences, but nothing significant enough to cause one to miss the X ring.

A buddy of mine is a Glock hater. To the point of being ridiculous. I like all guns. Brand loyalty to me is like falling in love with a habitually unfaithful partner and delusion-ally explaining away his or her dalliances. Every gun has pros and cons. He swore on his kids the 1911 was infinitely better than any Glock ever made. I got sick of hearing it and took the challenge. I kicked his butt at the range at 15 and 25 yards with three different Glocks in 9mm, 40 and 45. Just to be a jerk, I shot the G17 at the end of our challenge with one hand and still shot smaller groups than him at 15 yards. So much for “my gun is better” or “I only shoot the Lord’s caliber”. A poor carpenter always blames his tools.

Don’t get me wrong. I agree the 1911 is one of the finest semi automatic pistols ever made. Brilliant design. But having one - even the finest examples of the platform like Nighthawk, Wilson, etc. - doesn’t make anybody a pistol marksman.

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