I had a feeling that would be their response, as I’ve seen it several times before on here. If it needs that much testing for it to work, those parts really ought to be scrapped, or the whole assembly just sold as a blem or discounted for being “used”.
Even if the internal slide parts were not actually worn in and just needed a wipe down, you can’t explain that barrel not being used unless the coating on that one was subpar in the first place. Functionally no effect but if you’re buying a new gun it really should look like it unless clearly labeled otherwise.
As far as I’ve seen and heard about their CS owning up to problems, fixing broken stuff and all that, they are good. But some of the Daggers I see coming out look like they should have been scrapped due to the “fixing and testing” they had to do. Barrels with marks that look worse than my gun at 2K. Obvious slide wear including a connector track that was definitely not from just a few rounds test fired. Barrel hood, feed ramp, and chamber area that was “polished”, but really look like it was ground down like a Hi-Point’s breech face. Was it smooth? Probably. But if you’re going to polish a barrel up like that, at least use a cloth wheel on it and make it look shiny, instead of just used like it had 10k rounds through it.
I’ve only bought two complete Daggers, and a friend bought a Full Size SX recently. Mine, both bought a year apart from each other about 2-4 years ago now, had a minor 5 minute part swap that needed doing, and looked completely new. My friend’s gun had all parts in spec from my testing, though it did have one ding on the slide, but that was likely not from factory.
With that big of a variance in experience, I think PSA needs to go back to doing some QC/QA stuff. I know it can slow things down and shoot costs up a bit, but it seems like it needs it.
Think maybe they have spread the Dagger line too thin along with too many product launches at the same time. Could be tooling changes aren’t as frequent, no idea really. But it’s disappointing to see other disappointed users when my personal Dagger experience has been great. Even if one of them having a stuck ejector caused me to stab a screwdriver into my finger trying to remove it.
Yep, totally agree, like I said in a previous post had this been labeled a BLEM and I bought it for sub $200 I’d be perfectly happy with it. But that is not the case.
I’ve been buying PSA stuff since back when they used to take a month to ship an item. Their CS got much better over the years, but seems like it is falling back off again.
so i keep hearing bad stories, personally i have had a generally good experience with PSA and if i ever thought something was off they were attentive and listened to all the stuff i had to say… idk if i was identified as picky loud mouth crazy idiot, but they send me very clean stuff knowing im going to inspect it throughly, mostly trying to figure out how it works without breaking it…. i recommend PSA to everyone and i hope they all receive the same experience i have, i know they treated my buddy right and he lives in CA that had to been nothing but headaches his stuff looks clean tho (for being CA legal)
you will only hear bad stories most of the time. for the vast amount that pSA sells you wont hardly hear any of the good… just the bad… and i can assure you it is a very very small minority of the sales overall. I’ve never experienced any of the negative things that PSA is roasted over online. but man moderating this forum and seeing the stuff posted in ARfcom well i see most of the bad through them. its just the nature of the squeeky wheel getting oil.
Appreciate it, yea I understand only hearing the bad things, but I always recommend PSA to everyone because I genuinely love their products and price point. I’ve had nothing but good things to say about PSA. This is really my first bad experience with them. Really hope they make it right.
Yea I just bought 2 of the regular Dagger slides one in FDE and one in Sniper Green and they were both perfect and looked unfired.
@GamecockOperator I’d normally think they would, but I sent them same pictures I posted on here and their response was to clean and oil it lol so not looking like they’re going to or at least not that CS rep. Maybe Sean could help on this one
if thats the case then yeah i hope @sean.psa can handle it or maybe @Josiah_PSA can if we’re lucky. hes awful busy these days though which is why i suggested sean.
I had one barrel that looked just like that. I was planning on changing the barrel right from the start anyway so it didn’t bother me. I put the new barrel in it and after a trip to the range it had some marks in it as well. The nitride coating seems to mark easily.
The micro dagger barrel is on the site for $80. For that price you’d expect the coating to be better or even the surface finish to be at least smooth so it doesn’t create a bunch of friction that rubs the DLC away. They dont say what the barrel is made of besides “stainless steel” but the normal dagger barrels are 410 and I’d expect the micro to be the same. Maybe they should try a salt bath nitride instead or even change material to 416-r stainless and leave it shiny like how a lot of 1911-2011 barrels are. I have a PSA custom polished DLC 416-r threaded barrel for my full size dagger and it’s shown no wear at all so I know they can do it.
The only thing I can think of different if the coatings are the same, is the force with which compact guns lock and unlock. The ramp on top of the barrel and all that are different too.
I think I have seen a normal Dagger or two here with bad barrel wear like that but so far mine and my friend’s )3 guns total) have been fine on wear.
I’m not sure on any of their finishes how thin/think they are or how they hold up besides their AR’s which seem to hold up great and so far the JAKL as well. These are my first PSA handguns and the regular Dagger finishes look flawless.
So far it has been crickets all day from PSA CS. I sent the email with pictures last night after they were already closed, but he responded first thing this morning and I instantly responded back. Not sure if he just closed my case or ghosted me or what.
Negative, I’m not touching it until their response is finalized.
Regardless oiling and cleaning is not going to change all the wear on the slide and barrel, it is also not going to negate the fact this should have never been sold as new. So I’m not really looking to accept their recommendation of just oil and clean it. Oh all that wear don’t worry about all that wear, that is completely normal we test fire it before it leaves the factory. When I have 2 other Dagger slides I just bought that are actually brand new and look flawless. The math ain’t mathing on that explanation.
Like another poster said, if you have to fire it and tweak it that many times for it to function, just scrap it and grab another to send to the customer. Think I’m probably just going to do an RMA send it back, wait for my refund and buy another one and just hope/pray whoever is filling my order grabs a good one off the shelf to send me.
