I really hate to hear that. I understand it but it had to be hard on you. I will sell one of my two spare vehicles or one of my big boy toys before I have to sell off some guns. I have a young man that currenty mowes my yard. He has asked several times if I would like to sell my truck, Rhino and my lawnmower. My truck and my lawnmower is a definite no. I am debating on the Rhino. I can’t really use it anymore like I use to. My son already has a Polaris Razor. The Rhino is sentimental to me. I spent a lot of time and money upgrading her for riding in the mountains. I think that if the price is right I might let her go. The young man that wants to buy my Rhino is a really fine young man. He is the son of a long time friend. That really is the main reason why I am even thinking about it. I don’t know if I am just a sentimental old fool or not but I hate to sell anything of mine. It really bothers me to sell anything. I want to keep my lawnmower because 0I really hope that someday I can start mowing my own grass again.
yeah it was a bummer… it though did what i needed it to do some. Ive got to sell a few more to finish up paying off that bill, but i am thankful that i was able to have something i could sell to help me. They were very beautiful weapons, and the svt 40 was a halo gun for me. one that i had always hoped to find, and when i did well i was estatic. but it was one of the things i could sell that would yeild the most return, and thankfully it did just that. If i had to do it all over i’d of done the same thing. Who knows maybe one day i can replace them… but at least someone else will bea able to enjoy them now.
i can understand sentimentality when it comes to things. i’ve been really bad about keeping things for that very reason, and well it was another reason in my decision on selling them, to help pay off this one major bill. I cannot take things with me, and if it makes it easier for my wife and i to do more things together because we have more disposable income to play with instead of paying on a credit card of medical bills then iit will be worth it in the long run. the memories i can make with her over having a few safe queens well, i am sure it will be worth it, after all its what i keep telling myself.
i understand that thoughts on the mower too. I have my riding mower i havent sold yet, although the wife has suggested that i do just that a few times already… I havent sold it much for the same reason as you havent sold yours… with hopes i can one day get back out there and ride it to help mow the yard again. only time will tell if i have made the correct decisionss. we’ll see.
I totally understand your position and I would have done the same thing as you did. Family always comes first. I think that I am decade older than you so I have had more time to become a little more financially stable. If my occupational disability doesn’t come through in the next few months I might be doing the same thing and selling off some toys. That is also another reason I was thinking about selling my Rhino.
i dont know… im 48, so you may be. especially with the talk about retirement from the railroad. lol. i’ve got another 12 years before i can retire from the state. but you are correct. Family always comes first. selling off the toys is not fun, but it can be done, as long as it wasnt a family heirloom that i have to sell. I have only a few guns from my family, and none of those will be sold off. like many folks the hand down firearms really probably arent worth much to anyone other than me for sentimental reasons so there is little possibility they’ll go anywhere.
Hands down the last firearm that I would sell is the Remington Model 58 that I restored for my dad before he passed away. It is one of the threads here on the forum. It may be worth around a grand now since I restored it but to me it is the most valuable firearm that I own.
JP SAUER AND SOHN GERMAN OVER UNDER
12GA. SHOTGUN
This over-under shotgun was made by J P Sauer & Sohn prior to World War II. The Model 33 is relatively rare, often sought by collectors of German guns. It has a rounded, trigger-plate mounted, leaf-spring “blitz action”. This is a true round action, not a “rounded” Anson Deeley as found on many modern round action shotguns. The blitz action is known for being fast but also very strong and durable, as evidenced by the fact this gun is now ninety years old and despite having seen use, it is still in good working order. This gun has double triggers and extractors. There is modest but well-executed engraving, the action is polished French grey. A considerable amount of artisanship went into its making. The metal-to-metal fit is exceptional. There are no gaps anywhere and the gun locks up tight without play. These shotguns were designed to last lifetimes, with two, heavy, lugs below and double top-fasteners. This is referred to as a Kersten style fastening system. The 26 ¾” barrels are made of Krupp fluid steel, which were and still are considered some of the best barrels ever made. There is some wear on the bluing at handling points. The barrels are chambered and nitro-proofed for 2 ¾” (70 mm) shotshells. The bores are smooth and shiny with fixed chokes that measure light full and full but pattern modified and light full with Fiocchi Golden Pheasant #6. The solid rib is hand-filed and tapered. It is fitted with a 1-piece fore stock. The buttstock has a prince-of-whales style semi-pistol grip and is fitted with the original Sauer logo butt plate. Wood-to-metal fit is extremely good, with all edges hand-feathered to meet the metal for a seamless transition. The stock is oil finished fancy honey blond English walnut, nicely figured. There are no cracks or chips, only minor handling marks, and for a gun this age, it is in exceptional condition. The fine checkering on the grip and fore stock is still very good, well defined and grippy. At 6lbs, 15 oz, it is lightweight for a 12-gauge. The ergonomics are exceptional, the weight is distributed nicely between the hands. A joy to carry in the field, it points and swings naturally.
This shotgun is similar in design to a pre-war Merkel model 200 but not quite as “boxy”. I consider the Merkel to be an excellent shotgun as well. At the time this gun was made, J P Sauer & Sohn was perhaps the highest regarded large gunmaker in Europe. During WWII the model 33 had the dubious honor of being chosen by the German Luftwaffe, purportedly issued to their pilots as a “survival gun” and to assist in their training to lead flying targets. My shotgun doesn’t have any German Luftwaffe or war related stamps/markings.
This particular gun has some features that were not typical of the standard Model 33, such as an up-graded English walnut stock and a one-piece fore stock (vs. 3-piece). It does not have the typical pancake cheekpiece nor was it ever equipped with sling swivels which were standard offerings on most German guns of the day. It may have been a custom build for an American for upland bird hunting.
Following WWII, the German sporting gun industry was taken over and conglomerated by the Soviets. In the United States, German made products were no longer in vogue. It was many years before the American sportsman became comfortable with the idea of buying German made sporting guns. In the decades following the war, even the highly regarded shotguns of Ferlach, Austria could be purchased for a fraction of their value. The sporting guns of pre-war Germany were durable, well designed, functional weapons. I really like the Model 33. Made by the one of the oldest and most prestigious names in sporting arms, this shotgun is an example of the high-level quality, hand craftsmanship and ergonomic design for which pre-war German guns are so famous. German shotguns are still very reasonably priced when compared to others of similar quality. A shotgun of this quality would surely be in the five figures if it were built today.
I have posted this in the Sig P210 thread but I am adding it here also because it really belongs here.
I just acquired this Swiss Military issued P49 the other day. The original Swiss made P210 were issued to the police and for commercial use. The Original Swiss P49 is the exact same firearm but it was built specifically for the Swiss Military and the serial number start with the prefix A. My P49 is in almost in mint condition as well as the holster. The barrel and the top of the slide doesn’t have any wear marks on them. There is no carbon anywhere, rifling is clean and immaculate and no wear marks on the magazines from inserting and removing them. The slide itself has very little wear on it at the muzzle from holster wear. It is practically brand new. I was more than happy to add this to my collection. The P210 & P49 is known as one of the most accurate firearm straight out of the factory box. People would buy the original Swiss ones surplus and shoot them in pistol matches stock against other people with custom built race guns. They are extremely well made and very expensive to produce. A cheap beater Original P210/ P49 will cost you more than a new P210. The original ones are very expensive and the military one go for more than the police and civilian ones do. They are all collectable but the ones that bring the most money and most desired one for collectors is the early high polish blued P49 with wood grjps.
I got this Smith & Wesson U.S. Navy Victory 38 Special 4" Barrel 6rd a few weeks ago. Most of the Victory revolvers were made in the 1940’s. Revolvers were used in WWI, WWII and Vietnam War. This gun represents a lot of history. All Navy, Marine, Airforce and Army Forces used the Victory .38. This Victory revolver is in top shape, ready to shoot 38 Special. The gun and holster are both 100% U.S. Military. I have seen a few of these original USGI holster before but finding one that is in this good of shape is very hard. This holster is in 97% condition.
I got one of my oprhans a new pair of shoes the other day and stored the origional grips for safekeeping and from any damage.
I picked up this Sauer and Sohn 12ga side by side shotgun the other day amazingly pretty cheap. The stotgun itself is in great shape and locks up tight for a gun that was made 86 years ago. The stock has some major cracks that I can fix and make stronger than the original was. I have a case and more accoutrements to go with it now. I really hate having to undo and clean up improper “repair work” from a previous owner so that it can be fixed properly. Just trying to use wood glue on a shotgun stock is not properly fixing it so that it won’t break again and possibly injure someone. You have to use the proper repair materials and reinforce the cracks and thiner sections with metal pins epoxied in place.
Dual triggers with a Prince of Wales stock - that’s a little rare. Most dual triggers are straight hand stocks. Not saying it’s wrong but just different. I prefer that stock anyway to straight stocks.
My favorite guns are old shotguns. I love to work on them. Good luck with this one.
I think this one was a special order shotgun most probably for an American. It also doesn’t have any sling swivels which most European shotgun at that time did have sling swivels.
Norway adopted the 7.5 mm Nagant revolver named M/1893 as the standard Norwegian military sidearm in 1893. Commissions to test possible new service pistols were active from 1904 till 1911. In 1911, a commission recommended adoption of the semi-automatic .38 ACP caliber [Colt Military Model M1902) pistol, after field trials with 25 such pistols, all purchased from Colt’s London Agency. However, as the US had just adopted the Colt .45ACP M1911 pistol it was decided to conduct further tests. A pistol of the new M1911 design was received in Norway in January 1913. Following extensive tests through early 1914, it was finally decided, in August 1914, to adopt the Colt M1911 pistol in Norway. These pistols were to replace the Nagant revolvers (7,5mm M/1893) as the standard military sidearm in Norway. While the original pistol was known as the 1911 Colt, the designer and copyright owner was John Browning who had licensed manufacturing in the US to Colt. Norway attempted to get licensing through Colt, but discovered European production was through Fabrique Nationale. So in September 1914, Norway signed a contract with Fabrique Nationale of Belgium for manufacture. The pistol would be produced at Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk plant in Norway.
The Kongsberg Colt remained in service with the Norwegian Armed Forces until being replaced by the Glock in 1985.
This is a Sig P229-E2. This pistol was a East German Police trade in made in 2008. It has the rarer W. German made frame. It is in excellent condition with the E.German Police holster and magazine pouches with magazines.
I installed the Armory Craft slightly curved dual adjustable trigger and the Sig Short Reset Trigger Kit. Installing the two made all the difference in the world in the trigger pull. I am a bit of a trigger snob so doing updates on factory triggers is a regular issue for me. I still have all of the original Sig parts.
Thanks for sharing the S&W Victory. My father carried one in WWII as a Navy dive bomber pilot. After he had to bail out of his plane over Kagoshima Bay, he was given the gun to keep due to its immersion in salt water. After the War, he gave it to his older brother who was career Army, but unfortunately, it was stolen and never recovered. The Navy was still issuing them during Vietnam, as I had range time with one when I was going through Navy flight training in the early '70s.
man that kongsberg 1911 i’d love to have… an actual fn produced 1911… too cool!!! you really have some awesome guns man. truly you do!!
the 229 is very nice too… i have the SRT kit in both the m11a1 and my mk26 i have and love it compared to the factory triggers.
@Pluff_Mud I really hate that your father’s Victory was stolen. I know that it would have been a treasured famiky heirloom.
@GamecockOperator I posted this 1911 Kongsberg Colt for you. I posted a pic of it in the what 1911 that people wanted thread with some of my other 1911s. You asked about it and I am just now getting back to it. Even though they were in service for a good while there was less than 33,000 made. There aren’t that many left. The only ones in the US are GI bring backs from WWII. I know you asked about seeing my Japanese Nambu Type 14 that I have and for some reason I can’t find a picture of it right now. I will have to dig it out of one of my safes. I have been wanting a M11A1 for a little while now.
The Colt Commando .38spl is the Colt version of the S&W Victory. They both pretty much have some of the same history but I think that most of the Victory revolvers went to the Navy. There was less than 49,000 of the Colt Commando made.
well i thank you for sharing as usual… but that 1911 just is the cats meow to me… I’ll be patient on the nambu for now lol… I like the colt 38 too, i didnt know that about it being the sister to the victory… thst was some more interesting knowledge for me too… you always school me on stuff along with showing me the cool things too, so i thank you for that!
This isn’t old but it does fit into my collection. This is a Sig M18 made on the seperate military line for our Military. Sig sends the M17 and M18 in sepcific numbered blocks to our Military. On this particular block of Sigs they overran the specified number for our Military on the M17 and M18. Since Sig had overruns on the M17 and M18 Sig decided to offer them to Military and Law Enforcement only from one of Sig’s authorized dealers. I already have 3 Military decommissioned Sig M17 I really wanted Military Sig M18 to go with them. I was able to get one of the M18. You can tell that it is a real Military Sig M18 because the slide only has Sig Sauer M18 on it and the civilian slide has Sig Sauer P320-M17 or M18. A civilian Sig P320 serial number starts with a M in front of the numbers. Military Sig M17 serial number starts with TF. The Military Sig M18 serial number starts with TC before the numbers. T- is the military designation code for Sig. The F stands for full size and the C stands for compact. Both the military SIG M17 & M18 are given to the Military in cardboard box. The civilian Sig P320 comes in the blue plastic case. I ordered the display case from Sig. I have one of my decommissioned M17 in the same type display box.
