As it turns out I applied for the form 1 to avoid being a felon for my otherwise legally owned piece of plastic. Of course everyone sued and while I am covered in those suits by being members of the groups protected, that happened super late so the course of action I took was to register the thing. At the moment however the ATF rule is in legal jeopardy and may be thrown out. In the mean time the ATF approved my Form1, so now I have an approval but it states approval is "pursuant to ATF Final Rule 2021R-08F. Now I don’t really know that means, I guess I now have an SBR right? So I can just put a regular stock on this thing and call it a day now, and treat this as any other NFA item. (its my first) Are they going to actually mail me a tax stamp, or do I just keep the Form1 printed and in the case where the firearm is stored? Any advice here?
You can now put a stock on it and use a vertical foregrip. You actually won’t get a tax stamp as you never purchased a stamp. I would keep a copy of the paperwork on your phone or in the case with your gun. I have never been asked to show a stamp but I mainly shoot on private land.
Your lower is legally an SBR, so you can’t sell it without going through the process or removing it from the register. You can switch uppers also but you always need to be able to put it back in its original configuration.
Oh, and I saw your post (think it was you) on arfcom in GD. Ignore those fruitcakes.
Yeah I posted here at over at Arfcom, my first NFA item, I hated to do it but I also didn’t want them to brand me a criminal.
Many of us are both places, but we won’t give you the typical GD response.
Oh, I imagine I’ll get all sorts of boot liquor comments. The thing is all of that garbage is scary if you’re on the wrong side of the law.
And even if you’re on the right side, it might cost you a lot of money to prove it.
I got asked for a stamp one time when shooting suppressed by the range FUDD. I asked for his ID. He wanted to know why I wanted to see it and I said, “you want to see my paperwork, you first. Who the F are you to ask? Don’t like it? Go call the cops and I’ll show my paperwork to uniformed police officers.” He declined to pursue it further and the guys working the range went on a rant about him after I checked out for the day and told them about it.
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ow why I wanted to see it and I said, “you want to see my paperwork, you first. Who the F are you to ask? Don’t like it? Go call the cops and I’ll show my paperwork to uniformed police officers.” He declined to pursue it further a
[/quote] The Range is mostly asking because they could be in legal jeopardy if they allow people to shoot illegal, or unlawfully posessed weapons. Generally you sign some sort of liability waiver when you go shoot these days, and in that you typically state that you’re not in unlawful posession…etc. So that should cover it.
I should have been more clear; this wasn’t a guy who worked at the range. He was a random dude slow firing his deer gun, probably in .30-30, as His Majesty John Moses Browning would command, of course. Nor was he particularly nice in asking, which is why I responded sternly.
A range employee asking I can understand as they don’t want potentially illegal behavior in their house. That’s reasonable.
The two indoor ranges I frequent have a “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy, and I’ve gleaned this to be a private business owner’s prerogative based upon conversations I’ve had and overheard there. The outdoor range I sometimes visit is full of range Karens that treat it like a social club to sit around and jackjaw with their buds while firing once every fifteen minutes. Someone always has something to say, and its nearly always unsolicited advice. My personal stance on it is that so long as no one is endangering anyone else, and common range etiquette is observed, all’s fair in love and war. Last time I was there, I was shooting some NAS3 cased ammo, which being so light is prone to fly a little farther upon ejection than heavier brass and steel, especially from my carbine. One of the social club came over and informed me that I needed to police my casings, although none had really left my stall. Bear in mind his stall was a good twenty feet away, and I guarantee my casings aren’t going half that distance. I looked over my glasses so he could see my gray eyes nice and clear and told him if he can’t walk the range without stepping on casings (bearing in mind that none of mine would have been in his way had he not approached my stall), he shouldn’t be on the range, and went back to what I was doing.
My experience is that if you have a can then you play the game. But truly i dont care what you do. I aint sticking my nose in your business.
By and large, this is what I’ve experienced too. Someone who shoots suppressed has dealt with all the NFA nonsense and probably isn’t going to be a problem. Range employees often see you as a different type of shooter, and other customers who don’t have a can LOVE to come over and ask about it, especially if I’m shooting 22LR subs out of a bolt action. People will ask why I brought a pellet gun to the range, which always spawns some great conversations.
But the Range Karen/FUDD “never needed any of that” and thinks no one else should have it either. That is, if you talk loud enough for them to hear you over their tinnitus.
Any of your Tax Stamps, are just that, personal Tax information. I wouldn’t hand my stamps, nor my W2 over to anyone, unless they have legal paperwork stating by what power they have to see such a thing.
Funny thing is, it appears you filed for the non tax stamp Form 1. That one is for BRACES only, you can not put a stock on, foregrip anything else that was previously verboten. You filed for the right the leave or add a brace and that’s all. Pay up the $200 tax stamp and do what you want. They already have you in the system for Form1 brace.
Welcome to the forum @NORSEBEARD27 
Incorrect. You get an approved form 1 (albeit without the “stamp” because he didnt pay the tax). Add a stock and have a party.
How do any of you know you don’t get a stamp. You’re exempt from the $200 but it’s still a form 1 You’re going to have to kerp with you everywhere you go
Ive seen returned forms. They have an exception on the 3rd page and no stamp.
I don’t think that sounds legal. It should have some kind of stamp on it. Like the $5 for “other” items. It should just say $0 or exempt.
But nothing about this is legal
I would not carry original with gun make a copy and keep original in safe place and keep a pic on your phone.cya