I have ammo out there somewhere,
“Updates” show it was picked up, went to Illinois (On it’s way to Colorado from PSA) and hasn’t updated in 4 days. . . .
Seems like a year ago you got updates at every truck change, now its so bad I almost always end up with a 10AM notice that my package is out for delivery on the wrong day. Meaning they will drop it off at 2:30, 15 minutes before the school kids get off the bus and 3 hours before I can get home.
I have a package mailed from NC that went to Detroit rather than just coming to SC.
They used to give detailed statuses without an account, now you have to sign in. I created an account and get notifications and a lot more details. It even gives you a page that shows all upcoming and past shipment to you and a live map when the delivery is getting close to your house. Don’t have a problem with UPS in my area, but FedEx is another story.
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I’ve noticed this too – UPS tracking has turned to ■■■■ … unless you’re willing to sign in with a UPS account and give them a DNA sample so they know exactly who you are as they compile a dossier on you that lists the contents of every package that’s ever been delivered to you.
OK, I’ll admit it – the requirement for a DNA sample is a joke (at least for now). But seriously, UPS has changed their business practices in order to deny customers’ access to package tracking information unless they are willing to submit enough information about them to UPS to allow them to be tracked themselves.
Think about it – the old system, where you had anonymity coupled with complete visibility of your package’s progress (without having to sign-in) worked very well. So why would UPS spend lots of money to “upgrade” their system so that now you have to sign in to get your package’s data?
They took away package tracking with anonymity because UPS is now in the business of tracking people.
Under the old system UPS was a package tracking company and you were pretty much anonymous as a delivery recipient. Your name was just a name on an address label that wasn’t really correlated to anything other than your address, and UPS stopped caring about YOU once the package got delivered. Those days are over.
Under the new system UPS tracks both package senders and package recipients with individualized accounts that show your entire history of items shipped or received. (We’ve discussed in other threads the package “delays” that occur when your package gets held up in a UPS inspection hub for several days.) It used to be that they just tracked shippers, but now they track recipients too. And once you sign up for an account, the javascripts that run on the UPS web site correlate the data that you give them with profile data that is collected and brokered on the internet from various sources. Look at the scripts that are running when you log onto a UPS account and it becomes clear that UPS is now a surveillance organization.
The question that you need to ask yourself is this: Who is UPS collecting this information for, and how are they going to use it?
Elon Musk provided us with the Twitter Files to demonstrate that high tech companies like Twitter, Instagram and Facebook are staffed by “ex” FBI employees, and that Twitter was acting as a private entity acting to provide the Executive branch with all sorts of personal information about users, as well as providing other services that included the censorship of free speech, “disinformation” and “fake news.”
We already know that UPS is tracking the contents of packages that pass through their distribution networks, ostensibly to assure that “ghost gun shippers” aren’t shipping “illegal ghost gun parts” to prohibited recipients. It should come as no surprise to anyone that UPS is now tracking 3 things with every package shipment: 1) the shipper; 2) the contents; and 3) the recipient.
Knowing this, I have to ask myself several questions when assessing whether it’s worth signing up for a UPS account to track my package in real-time:
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Do I really need to create an account with UPS so that I can use a phone or PC to know exactly how many stops away the UPS truck is at any given moment? Or can I get notification when my package has been delivered by placing a sign on my door that says “For Delivery Please Ring Bell.”?
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Is the convenience and cool-factor that comes with tracking the GPS location of the UPS truck worth surrendering my personal information to a company that has announced it’s hostility towards gun owners?
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Do I really want another entity tracking my life?
To me, knowing the exact up to the minute location of my package just isn’t worth the price that I have to pay to get it. Depending on your point of view it may not be worth giving away personal information to use a cool tracking app.
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The reason that shipping providers sure suck lately is because nothing is an accident.
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I have ammo out there somewhere,
“Updates” show it was picked up, went to Illinois (On it’s way to Colorado from PSA) and hasn’t updated in 4 days. . . . [/quote]
There are threads in the forum that address package delays that occur when 2A related packages pass through the package inspection hubs such as the suburban Chicago UPS Chicago Area Consolidation Hub in Hodgkins, Illinois.
If you watch the tracking information closely you will see that before, during and after your package reaches one of those hubs, the documentation of the date/time/package progress will be altered/revised to conceal the amount of time that the package spent delayed at the inspection center.
In the past I have made numerous observances of the package date/time/progress being changed so that on paper the package spent less time at the inspection hub than it actually spent there according to the initial data logs; retroactively, the logs were changed to reflect that instead of spending days at the inspection hub, the dates/times of the package’s progress through previous/subsequent routing locations were changed to document that the package actually spent it’s inspection times at those preceding/subsequent locations. On occasion I have seen the logs altered to add 2 days to the time that it took my package to leave the hub that preceded CACH, and 2 days subtracted from the date of arrival at the CACH, to create the illusion that the hold-up occurred at a site other than the inspection hub. Pay close attention to the date/time/location information and you’ll likely see this as well.
This Box from Midway seems to have spent a suspect 34 hours …
01/12/2023
10:41 A.M. Depature Scan: Enroute to USPS
Denver, CO, United States
01/12/2023
6:28 A.M. Arrived at UPS Facility
Denver, CO, United States
01/11/2023
4:59 A.M. Package received for processing
Kansas City, MO, United States
01/10/2023
7:26 A.M. Shipment tendered to UPS Mail Innovations
Columbia, MO, United States
01/10/2023
4:35 A.M. Departed UPS Facility
Kansas City, MO, United States
01/10/2023
1:15 A.M. Package processed
Kansas City, MO, United States
01/09/2023
10:51 P.M. Package received for processing
Kansas City, MO, United States
01/09/2023
7:00 A.M. Shipment tendered to UPS Mail Innovations
Columbia, MO, United States
“tendered to UPS Mail Innovations” twice??? who did they get it from the 2nd time? And why the ping pong between Columbia, MO & KC and back?
State of the Union Address, 2/7/23
Did anyone notice in the SOTU address that President Biden plans on working with companies like FedEx to inspect packages? His comments were made under the guise that inspecting peoples’ packages is necessary for the War on Fentanyl. So now it’ll be OK to officially inspect packages in transit to assure that there’s no fentanyl in them.
Let’s launch a major surge to stop fentanyl production, sale, and trafficking, with more drug detection machines to inspect cargo and stop pills and powder at the border.
Working with couriers like Fed Ex to inspect more packages for drugs. Strong penalties to crack down on fentanyl trafficking.
You’re located in the same state as the Class III dealer? Would it have been possible to drive the 2.5 hours to perform the transfer in person, and bypass the shipping risk and the involvement of another dealer in the transaction? I’ve driven farther to pick things up. I would rather NOT have any NFA items shipped if it can be avoided.
Actually that is a drop point FFL that reships instate for Silencer central. It is not a retail site.
They ship to that point mass drop and then toledo unboxes master cartons and reships to Ohio
residents.
I learned all this , this week watching tracking info from SD
It is a work around if you may …
I ended up with it Saturday morning in the end though the process worked ok for me.
Gun companies are going to have to start marking 2A shipments with “Rainbow Colored Dildos” or “Biden 2024” packing slips because all the shipping companies UPS, FedEx, USPS are getting a little too handsy with 2A packages. I have had 3 high dollar accessories disappear with either “Package Damaged in Shipping,” “Package Lost During Shipment,” or “Delivered” but it surely was NEVER delivered. Two I got my money back but one of the packages from a big name 2A Retailer told me to pound sand.
I shudder at the thought of using USPS to ship anything. The USPS has theft rings everywhere. I once had a letter carrier that was famous for scanning packages as delivered on one day and not bothering to deliver them until the next day. I suspected that he was examining the packages overnight for things to steal. If he didn’t want what he found, then he delivered it the next day.
One day I had scheduled a priority mail pickup online, so he came to my house to pick up the package – a 10-pc lithium ion tool set that was in the original packaging. It was obvious what was in the box. He loaded it into the jeep and it was never seen again. Luckily I was able to prove that he took the package that he claimed that he never picked up. The postal inspectors searched his house and busted a postal theft crime ring. I got a new letter carrier after that.
If you ever have a problem with a contested delivery, ask for the GPS coordinates at the time the delivery was scanned. If you get lucky and the location doesn’t correspond to your front door then you have evidence of theft.
I’m worried about them getting to “handsy” with packages. It’s only going to get worse. We already know that UPS has a hard-on to seize 2A related packages. Now it looks like they’ll be openly instead of clandestinely violating 4A as they begin to search everything without warrants.
If you listened to Biden’s SOTU speech, during his comments toward the end about the fentanyl “crisis” he muttered some information that tipped his hand that he plans to expand on the government’s partnership with “couriers” (aka UPS, FedEx, DHL and maybe even USPS) to search peoples’ packages, ostensibly because they’re looking for fentanyl. He didn’t expand on this idea, he just kind of muttered it under his breath. Much to my amazement, nobody has picked up on this and objected to it.
The federal government partnering with couriers to customarily search parcels without a warrant is a blatant violation of 4A.
Here we go again, odd it seems to only happen with guns, gun parts & ammo.
We got a new puppy and my wife has ordered like 10 things all seem to arrive without taking side trips.
Just now From FedEx “Hi. The estimated delivery time window of your package is no longer available. You will receive an update if the time window becomes available.”
Then it says the box is in my state about 100 miles away, and “ON TIME” . . . .except my local FedEx JUST looked at their computer and told me my box is in Kansas.
Congrats – you’ve made “The List.”
I just completed an inquiry with the USPS. I had a package make it to distribution center, 14FEB. The location was 20 minutes from my house. 2 weeks, a complaint filed by the shipper and twice being contacted by USPS my package arrived yesterday.
In my last communication with them I informed they were Lithium Ion batteries. Voila, delivery.
They’re all crooks.
This is 100% true story. In the 9th grade in High School there was this dude that had just graduated high school the previous year. He knew a UPS driver. For $100 and 1-3 day wait time he’d get anybody that wanted one a “Lorcin” brand pistol. You’d get black or chrome, black or wood or sometimes fake pearl grips, 22lr, .25 or .380acp. You never knew what you’d get, but that was what it was gonna be. The driver would jack them off his routes and you’d get a brand new POS Lorcin. Anybody at my HS that had 100 bucks could get one. Easy peasy and a disgrace.
Once my mom dropped off a money order at the post office to pay a bill. The envelope disappeared and the money order was found “washed”. They bleach out the ink writing and make it out to someone else. The only people with contact to the money order was the employees in the post office.
As I said… They’re all crooks lol.
So how many Lorcins do you own?
None, honestly. I never had one.
Seen lots of illegal stuff in High School. I’d never ruin my chances of having legal stuff as an adult.