I am thinking about doing a 13.5 pistol build and am wondering how PSA attaches their muzzle devices. Is it a pin and weld, or silver solder? Has anyone removed one?
(I have older cans that are direct thread. So I can’t use any one the ones they offer) I have wondered if anyone has ordered one without the muzzle device.
You cant order without the muzzle device and yes it is pin and welded. You will need to remove the weld and the pin. The threads may also be messed up depending on their process.
If it’s a pistol build, do you need to pin and weld a muzzle device? If it’s going to be a rifle yes but a pistol, I don’t think so.
Also, when ordering a 13.5 rifle with a pin and weld muzzle device, can you choose the device or are you stuck with what’s on the shelf?
Just with my newbie experience I bought the barrel separately and built the upper I wanted,
Or go with PSA 11.5 complete upper that’s doesn’t have a welded muzzle for under $200.
BCM has some 12.5 complete uppers $700+
With the 13.5 it’s almost at rifle length
All the 13.7 uppers are p/w in the configuration PSA chooses. There isnt an option to select otherwise.
usually the way PSA makes the upper is the way that it will come with the muzzle devices that they offer. they do not give you the option to configure or customize what flash hider was offered on the rifle.
if you truly want to be able to configure the flash device, i suggest building yourself a free floating handguareded upper of your own choosing . this way you build exactly what you want, know how much everything cost,and wont bge burned out. just my .02 worth
Thanks for the replies. I was hoping someone actually removed the muzzle device, so I knew how to remove it with minimal damage.
Sadly, I want the jakl (piston) system. Now that they announced the Bullpup chassis for the Jakl, Ia m even more heacing down that road. Although now I realize I am going to be buying another suppressor, probably Keymo compatible.
i have a jakl in both calibers offered. i opted for the pistol versions myself partly because of the fact that the muzzle devices are not pinned and welded on them. you will not regret getting a jakl in my experience they are great platforms!
Lots of folks wish PSA would offer a no p/w version and i know its been passed up the line.
i think if we were to ever see that offered it would be in a stand alone upper only for obvious reasons.
Sure. I also wonder how many jmac muzzle devices they bought in keymo. Keymo seemed like the new tri lug until the industry slid into HUB mounts.
That doesn’t look too difficult to remove, honestly. Thanks for the pic!
you’re welcome
It doesnt look bad but thr threads underneath could be boogered up.
Forget about removing a pinned and welded device. The barrel is toast.
I haven’t removed a P/W on a PSA gun, but I’ve removed them on a few others and never had an issue. If it’s done correctly, the only damage to the threads are the pin-sized dimple in the threads at the point of drilling. Unless the person doing the work drilled into the bore, the barrel is completely usable and you can thread on your preferred muzzle device.
with your previous experience, and skill and patience, i think you’d probably be able to do it without issue… me personally i dont have the tools necessary for me to do it or to feel comfortable trying to do it. so i just stay a way from factory pinned and welded items.
Not to hijack your thread but have you looked into the PSA proper procedure for changing the muzzle device period. Figured you’d have some input.
On any AR platform, you can use a specialized vise block to hold the upper or the vise blocks that go into the magazine well. I’m wondering if we’re supposed to remove the handguard and secure the barrel to change out the muzzle devices.
im not sure there is a proper procedure as stated by psa.
some guys use a reaction rod, but i use the upper vice blocks usually, that way it ensures its holding the upper, that and i dont have a reaction rod. there are two schools of thought, that the reaction rod is superior than the vice blocks due to how the rod fits into the barrel breach and locks in like a bolt, versus how the vice blocks only hold the upper and not the barrel at all.
in my experience i’ve had no issues with the blocks, as the muzzle devices arent ever wrenched on super super tight. surely not enough to worry about sheering off the barrels alignment pin. I hope that helps.
