I got the gun yesterday. A flat earth compact w/10 mags. Went out this morning with all 10 mags loaded with cast bullets and also a glock 30 round stick with cast (3 different cast bullets. One that runs in my glocks (except my 43 but wont run in a m&P. Its more of a lfn style bullet with a big flat) and one 15 round glock mag with jhp’s . cant get to my range because of snow so stopped on the road and just proceeded to do mag dumps as fast as i could shoot and load. Fast enough that it got HOT. not one bobble in 185 rounds not even that finicky bullet. Never cleaned it or oiled it before i did it either. Came back home and loaded the 10 mags 9 with cast and 1 with jacketed and a 30 round ets clear mag with cast. Went back out and did the same mag dump. Thats 375 without a single hickup. I think ill keep going till i hit a 1000. By the way these werent even all full power loads. Some chronographed at around 800 fps. Im skeptical when it comes to inexpensive guns. But this thing is impressing me. Ive got 10 glocks and needed this like a hole in the head but i was just curious as to how they could sell them so cheap. Now im trying to justify buying another one. my wife said no when i told her i was buying it for her! What would be great is a true deap cover gun like a 43. Even a 26. Id bet they would make serious money if they offered a quality copy of a 43 at the same 300 dollar price range. By the way my compliment for how nice they made the grip feel in the hand. its almost as good as an M&P. Much better then a factory glock.
maybe psa will give me a gun to really test. 
that is if they want to know how it holds up to 20k or more. I DARE THEM 
They do their own torture testing to 20k+ rounds before they release it for sale.
Yup but manufactures have been know to be a bit predudice and tight lipped sometimes. Give me one and ill tell it like it is. Im pretty well known on the gun forums and am a moderator on 3 of them. Been shooting all my life and have handguns in every caliber for 25 acp to 500 Linebaugh. I even know John linebaugh and have met John Taffin. Go to ANY cast bullet forum and ask if they know Lloyd. Anyone that knows me knows there aint an ounce of bs in me anywhere. My round count every year isnt in the hundreds its in the 10s of thousands. Heck ive no doubt spend over 15k on psa stuff in the past and thats a conservative guess so they sure wouldnt be loosing much profit.
And now you know how I came to sell (almost) all my Glocks and buy Daggers. 
The only Glock I have left is my G26 - it fits in a pocket for me, where the Dagger will not, and also vanishes under a t-shirt better when OWB’ing it than a Dagger. If the Micro Dagger shows up and is as solid as the Compact and Full Size S Daggers, I can see the 26 going down the road also.
I wont sell my glocks. There proven reliable and this gun will have to hold up to even more scrutiny then a glock. I can buy a glock run 500 rounds through it and about know its dead reliable. I just have qualms about a 300 dollar gun and if it makes 2k absoultely flawlusly then i might carry one to protect myself or my family. I too like my 26 but i like my 27 more and my 30s more then even those two. If im going to go to war or shtf id have one of my 22s on my side. Its the only glock I have two of. That says it right there what my opinion of it is. To me its the finest battle pistol ever made. To bad the 40 isnt the IN thing today. Its probably the most balanced black gun round made. Im sure psa wont bother with the 40 though. To many girls claiming it “kicks to much” LMAO. Even my 20 and 29 are pussy cats compared to something like a 44 mag blackhawk or even a 357 snubby. Ive got a pile of carry guns but mostly anymore its a glock 27 or 30 or my smith shield 45 or my Springfield emp 40. Id carry that springfield more but its a heavy little tank. I would doubt they will do a clone of the 43. At 300 bucks it would still have to compete with the shield 9mm and ive got three of them and they never missed a beat even once and people would probably be more apt to pay 300 for a smith then an non time tested psa. Lots of other small 9s that are good guns for 300 bucks . Like the lc9 for one. My shields and my wife lc9 both have better triggers then the 43 that cost alot more. Bottom line is it will take some serious range time before i talk dagger in the same sentence as a glock 19 that is about the most proven handgun in the world.
You speak highly of the Glock and rightfully so. I’m just curious why a $300 Glock clone would need to hold up to even more scrutiny than a Glock?
because i have to trust it to protect me and my family. Glocks are a proven platform. Daggers are not. Ten years from now i might have to admit there as good but until then they will need to be tortured like glocks in the field have been and proven to be a gun that isnt going to run well for the first 1000 rounds then be a pos. How many here have 5k round counts. How many other then the guns psa have tested have 2k. 2k is nothing. 5 k is nothing. Ive got 1911s and glocks with 5-10 times that much and with many different bullets loads and ammo. You wont convince me there as good as a glock until they been proven to be and not by a few guys that have a couple hundred rounds through them. That isnt even a good day at the range. Im not bashing them. Quite to the contrary. Im very impressed so far. I would have about bet that it wouldnt have made it to 300 without some kind of choke. MANY guns dont. MANY expensive guns dont.
i realize too that not everyone has 6 or 700 dollars to buy a home protection gun. Some are just starting in life with a family and need to put food on the table. I sure can relate because there was a time i couldnt buy any gun period. I can understand them jumping on this. Its surely not going to be a bad gun and its sure better then a baseball bat. But i sure cant see the mindset of selling glocks to buy something not proven at half the price. It to me would be like showing up at the airport and the ticket man announcing that for half price you can fly on this new clone of a 727 that sells for half the price… Its only got a few trips but so far so good and the manufactures says its as good as a Boeing. Would you march your kids up to that line to save a few bucks. ME? ill keep my glocks thank you. I will use this to have fun at the range and if it turns out to be great ill use it to save on my 19 and 23 doing drills. Maybe even pick up full sized gun to give my beloved 22’s
a rest.
well 10 more mags and two ets 30 round sticks today. I did have a bobble. After round 5 of mag #4 the mag fell out. I stuck it back in and the rest went fine. As did all the mags after it even the ets sticks. Dont know if it was the mag, the gun or i just didnt slam it home so the mag is marked and if it happens again ill at least know if its the mag or not. So the round count is now 585. Pretty impressive . Back when i was into 1911s id take any new one and run 500 rounds through it. I did clean and oil them first and i used top shelf wilson or chip mc cormick mags. Id alow on bobble because i was shooting mostly cast not high dollar factory stuff. If it failed it went to the gun shop and was traded off. This gun has already passed that and without cleaning and just the oil they put on it at the factory and other then two glock mags all of it was done with the cheap promags and ets that honesty have given me fits in some guns. So i will say so far its a hell of a gun for 300 bucks. Part one is done. Now to a 1000 rounds.
well it bugged me so i went back out with all 10 mags loaded and had 4 of them drop out. Somethings going on with it. Contacted psa. im sure they will take care of the problem. theyve been great in the past. Thats one real big positive about this gun over a glock. Service is just so much easier.
There was a known issue in the early production Daggers, basically (as I understand it, in redneck terms) the locking block was out of spec, allowing the barrel to come back too far, and because of that excess travel, the barrel was contacting the lip of the mag during recoil.
Should be fairly easy to test, put an empty mag in the gun, pull the slide all the way back - not just to the slide lock, pull it as far back as far as you can. Look and see if the barrel is making contact with the mag, or like maybe it could if the barrel was coming back under recoil/force.
The other thing to check is the mag release.
What mags? All ETS? I have only ever run Glock™ and Magpul mags, and I’m still waiting to see a few thousand more rounds through the Magpul’s before I trust them with my life.
On the topic of round count/trustworthyness - I do hear you. I have owned enough Glocks over the years, zero failures from any of them in factory stock configuration, that I’m comfortable enough at 100 rounds that I’d trust a purchased new Glock with my life, and 300 or so for a Glock I purchased used.
A Dagger, gets some trust because mechanically, it is a Glock, so from an engineering standpoint, I trust it as much as a Glock. However, it’s also new to the market, and from a manufacturing tolerances, heat treating, etc standpoint, still somewhat unproven.
Where I’m at - I have 3 daggers (2 compacts and a full size s), that collectively are well over 5k rounds now in various configurations (I’ve swapped slides and barrels around a lot - including some Gen5 G34 barrels, Faxon’s, and PSA stock barrels). I’ve run everything from my 9mm Major (+P+) handloads (124 grain FMJ with a LOT of Power Pistol under it), to some craptastic low pressure 115 plated stuff, with a fair mix of 115 and 124 factory FMJ in the mix as well, and around 1k of +P loaded XTP’s (my defense load of choice). The slide with the red dot on it has seen probably 3k of those rounds with any one of 4 different barrels installed, and so far, I’ve yet to have a single issue out of any of the guns. Based on that - I trust any of these 3 Daggers with my life, with the most trust being with the full size s with the slide with the red dot on it (which is my current backwoods/open carry piece). If/when I get a 4th Dagger, it’s an untrusted gun to me until I get up near 1k trouble-free rounds.
Everyone has to make their own call as to when they trust a gun - I’m just saying where/how I made the call with mine.
Could be a patent thing. PSA watched what happened to S&W on their Sigmas, and wants to avoid the same situation
Ablediver out
I have owned every glock and p80 combination known to man and when i saw that psa had came out with this g19/17 answer i knew i needed to try it out. I was involved in the g19/p320 military testing and the m18 was subpar imho stacked up against the g19x. Now granted i have not been able to range test my dagger as i am currently waiting on my grip/fcg to come into my ffl, im sure from what ive seen and read that it will fall into the reliability parameters of a g19 so why pay g19 price when you could build or buy a dagger and call it a day?
Bet they didn’t send the 27rd mags. If they did, you didn’t try them.
I’ve had my firing pin break twice. I still have to call and get them to replace it again or possibly warranty the slide. Good thing I ordered another when I got the warranty. I love my Dagger, but GOT DANG! if I’m not terrified to depend on it.
Got my Dagger Compact frame yesterday and was able to range test it today with the rmr slide with threaded barrel I had.
Unlike my 2 Rocks this did not run flawlessly. Every mag for about 120 rounds i had to stop with a stove pipe or ftf.
I used 2 new Pmag15 and all FMJ ammo. at about 75 rounds I did lube it a bit and by the time i finished the last 2 mags (150 + rnds) they both ran all the way without issue.
I ordered a new glock 15 rnd mag to have for the next range test.
BTW out of frustration I pulled out the Rock and dumped a quick 50 bucks of ammo to remind me how a gun should shoot!
looking forward to next trip to see if the Dagger is breaking in ok
I’ve read enough of the stories about the firing pin to be slightly nervous. However, I’ve put a pretty fair number of rounds through mine, and I dry-fire the crap out of two of them near constantly (the one I am currently trusting in my woods-carry holster is not in the dry-fire rotation in case that turns out to be bad someday) - I’d guesstimate approaching 10k dry-fires by now. So far, all is well. If they go another few months with all that dry firing, I’m giong to be pretty confident in them.
If I ever do break one, I’ve got a P80 firing pin in a baggy just waiting to go, and if that day comes, I’ll replace the other 2 with Glock™ firing pins.
My suspicion is that they’ve had a batch or two with bad heat treating - folks that have broke them seem to have had them break fairly soon (within a few thousand dry fires or so, some much sooner even than that). So we’ll see.
To kind of re-state what I said earlier - engineering-wise, I 100% trust these guns. From a manufacturing standpoint, these are like early Glock Gen 1’s in terms of production process maturity. So a lot of “trust but verify” from my perspective.
I don’t know about p80. But OEM Glock firing pins will not work. That was the first thing I did when mine broke was order one. I was like, heck no! I think PSA uses a proprietary firing pin, very silly and I don’t appreciate it. And I don’t have a gun collection I have a PSA collection so I’m not talking crap about them I love them. I dry fire like an ocd fiend as well.
Thx for the reply 
Edit: the 1st broke after a bunch of dry fire and about 400 rounds. The 2nd broke within 100 rounds and a couple weeks of dry fire. You’re probably right I got a bad batch but that weird that it was the pin that came with my dagger and also the one they warranted it with. VERY BAD LUCK?.. idk