Just picked them up. oiled the frames, neither one works. Using a OE PSA dagger complete upper slide assembly (all OE PSA). Have not tried a Glk upper.
1- Compact frame-- difficult to put the slide on, and then won’t reset. I can push the trigger forward to force a trigger reset, but otherwise dead trigger.
2- Full size frame - impossible to put the slide on, I can can get just slightly past the front rails but that’s it.
GEN 3 Glocks are known to be more finicky with putting slides on. Dagger is the same, BUT
any way to take a video or photos of what is happening? That’d allow the community to better help out!
update…
Put my Glock19 gen3 slide on both the frames and it went on with just a little bit of persuasion (more needed on full size frame) .
Did some dry rack and dry-fire using the Glock slide (~50x). Both frames worked.
Now the PSA dagger slide goes on both with persuasion, but I have to pull down on the slide lock to fully finish the assembly. Trigger is working on both frames.
My new frames needed the Glock slide to “set them right”. After racking and dry firing with Glock19 slide, the Dagger slide is working better on the frames and the original issues in first post are nearly gone. Failure for trigger reset is gone too. I have not modified any internal components- that I would consider a warranty failure if I needed to do that in order for the frames to work.
Very strange indeed to need the Glock slide to start the process.
Something changed by hand working and dry firing. Could you pull your slide and look at the nipple on the right side of your fin? Has it been rubbed down? Is there a burr on it indicating some wear-in?
Another test: could you install Glock slide without the spring or barrel, pull and hold trigger while working slide. Can you feel the trigger bar dragging against the slide? How about with Dagger slide?
My FDE Dagger was a little tough to get on it’s frame when I first got it. Lots of dry fire, racking, and a little shooting and it’s smoothed out now. The trigger bar protrusion has not had any noticeable material removed, it’s just the parts mating together properly, coatings wearing and smoothing out.
The trigger issue CAN be helped by working the gun in too, but I didn’t have that issue on mine. It was a complete gun though.
Trigger bar will usually drag anyway, as when it’s going over the safety plunger, it attempts to cock to one side. That’s what the gen 4 style nub on the trigger bars try to prevent. That smaller surface will drag instead of a larger one, and keep the trigger more in line over the safety.
No…I don’t see any areas of obvious wear after a week of dry racking, and the nub looks new and not rubbed down.
The slide racks smoothly on both frames. Going on and off is just a little bumpy and needs a little wiggle waggle. Also i need to pull down on the slide lock to put the slide fully on, the last 1/4".
Good enough.
Also remembered that my tan Dagger tends to pull the trigger forward when I take the slide off, making it a little tough. Pinning the trigger to the rear while taking it off helps for me. It probably shouldn’t be binding, but I don’t consider it a problem or even an annoyance, it still comes off, and the gun works fine so I’m happy.
My Full-Size S originally had some odd friction in the slide when I removed or installed it on the frame. Like others I learned to “wiggle” it up/down during the process. But it only FTF when i limp-wristed it. After the first 200+ rounds, the slide is as easy to install/remove as my Glocks.
I had the same issue with trigger reset. I bought a dagger full size frame to put a glock 23 gen 3 slide on ( changing the ejector is fairly easy). Prior to making any changes i put a g19 slide on it and the trigger would not reset. I solved the issue by taking the trigger assembly out my g23 frame and replacing the dagger trigger with it. it worked well after the trigger change. I have to say the 23 slide and full size Dagger frame are an amazing combo that is the best shooting pistol I own.
Welcome to the forum @vernboyd
If you’re going to troubleshoot Glock trigger issues, an armorers rear plate is invaluable. You can buy one off Amazon, with a glock armorers tool for $15. Mine is clear, and its just long enough to secure the striker assembly. You can watch the interaction between the striker, trigger bar and connector.
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so whats the solution for this for those of us who dont have spare glock slides laying around ? I just picked up my sniper green compact frame and slide yesterday and mine doesnt reset either unless I push it forward.
at the same time I was planning on getting an upgraded trigger anyway so is there a good trigger upgrade I can get that will fix this issue in addition to upgrade it? I have to take the gun to a gun smith either way to fix this or upgrade it so I rather do both.
I would start by dry racking that slide x100 times to see if parts start to wear in and trigger fixes itself. Push the trigger forward each time.
The sky is the limit on what you can replace it with. Personally, I think the one it came with is pretty good- but I come from the Glock world, and have no issues with the Glock defensive trigger.
yea that didn’t work. Pull the trigger then rack it and the trigger resets fine but pull the trigger without racking it after and it just goes back and not come back forward without pulling it back out.
From working on Glocks, I would be comfortable taking it apart and replacing or reinstalling the fire control group. A common cause of this failure to reset in Glocks is the angle of the connector off the trigger housing.
If you are installing another trigger system, that could solve the problem.
Or set the warranty service in motion and have PSA own the problem. This should be made known to them that their product I having this issue.
yea that’s a good idea to at least put the warranty in motion. Hell a nice credit to go towards a new trigger upgrade will be perfect.
But essentially would dropping this in eliminate the issue and upgrade the function? no knowing the exact cause of this problem.
ok so after pulling up a youtube video, i found out my gun is resetting fine and its just that this is my first experience with a Glock like gun and was expecting the trigger to dry function like all my other guns triggers. LOL
So you weren’t racking it after pulling the trigger? I assumed you were. Other striker guns that push the trigger forward aren’t exactly resetting either. They won’t fire if pulled again. It’s just their triggers have a spring to keep them forward. Glock’s have to be decocked with trigger to the rear to take apart, so it’s part of the design intentionally.